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    #16
    to add to angelinacat's advice on certified mail with return receipt: i think it costs less than $5.50 if you go for a return receipt by email, which is considered acceptable by courts as far as i understood from my postoffice (they actually explained that it took a long time to get the email receipt system because they first had to verify it would be accepted by courts). but it wouldn't save that much - around $1 saving.

    and to justbroke: maybe the OP didn't have the time to go in person to the courthouse. it would be best to go in person, but sometimes that's just too much time.

    and i agree with the others that if you managed to make this many mistakes without even getting through the filing stage, you really need a lawyer. maybe try legal aid.
    filed ch7 May 09
    341 june 09
    discharged, closed Aug 09

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      #17
      Originally posted by klandsb View Post
      Payments may not be sent by any express delivery service requiring a signature by the recipient, or which cannot be delivered to a post office box. Any payments sent by such method which cannot be accepted will be returned to sender at the sender's expense, and will not be credited to the debtor's account.site along with the address to send in your pmts:
      We are Ch7 Asset. Our payments were to the trustee to buy back our non-exempt items from the BK estate. They were $450.00 a month. These payments were made by money order to the trustee's mailbox, and was sent certified, return receipt. We started doing this when one of the payments (#3 I think) showed up late and we thought it had gotten lost.
      "To go bravely forward is to invite a miracle."

      "Worry is the darkroom where negatives are formed."

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        #18
        Originally posted by music12 View Post
        and to justbroke: maybe the OP didn't have the time to go in person to the courthouse. it would be best to go in person, but sometimes that's just too much time.
        That's why I asked why they didn't/couldn't. Also, for important things, like the installment payments, or to answer a complaint or a motion that is going to affect your case... I always suggest, first, to hand delivery to the Clerk, or second, using 2nd Day mail from a reputable carrier for the reasons you see exposed in this poster's scenario.

        I want to assist pro se debtors as much as a can. In this regard, I will continue to ask why they didn't go in person, and why they didn't use a 2nd Day express mail service (from a reputable carrier). I learned the hard way before -- not for Bankruptcy, but in life -- that even USPS Priority Mail isn't a guarantee. There are just too many things to disrupt the flow of mail. In those cases, and pardon me, where it absolutely, positively needs to be there overnight...
        Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
        Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
        Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

        Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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          #19
          yes, justbroke, you are (not surprisingly) completely right.

          believe it or not, i recently sent something certified mail at one of those automated postal machines. i paid the certified fee, got the stamp from the machine, attached the green certified mail form, and mailed it. and then nothing - the tracking number didn't even show up on the usps system!! i ended up having to call the addressee to find out if it had arrived. thankfully, it did, because i was mailing it for a very close relative who started thinking i was trying to sabotage them by saying i mailed it without actually mailing it. people think the usps is so reliable that your own mother could doubt you if they mess up!

          thing is, those automated postal machines sell you the stamp for certified mail, but on the other side of the machine they simply do not scan the item. so you are left with having paid for it but no proof it was even mailed!!

          so with proof that the item arrived at the addressee, i went to the post office to at least get my money back for the certified fee. and surprise surprise, they say there is no proof i ever mailed anything so why should they give me a refund?

          seriously, those automated machines should not be selling the $2.80 stamp for certified mail if they do not then guarantee anything.

          thankfully, in this case i learned the easy way, because the addressee acknowledged receipt. but if they hadn't, things would have been pretty bad...

          so, the moral of the story is, mail it certified mail by handing it to a clerk, and stay away from the automated postal machines!
          filed ch7 May 09
          341 june 09
          discharged, closed Aug 09

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