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    Thinking about filing chapter 13- have a few questions...

    My husband and I are seriously considering filing Ch. 13. It probably won't be for another month or 2 though. We are in the process of trying to modify our mortgage through ALS which I hear is a complete joke, so I am not counting on that. I am also in the middle of a lawsuit over one of my debts and I'd like to file before I get a judgement and garnishment. A couple of pre-filing questions:

    1. Would it be better to wait until after we file our taxes for 2010 and get our return? (We usually get between 1-3K). Or would it not matter and even if we file post getting our return do they take that or does it affect us negatively?

    2. I am currently in 2 arrangements w/creditors/law firms and am making a $250 payment to one each month, and a $50 payment to another. Do I need to stop paying these a few months before filing? Would paying these, or even paying my mortgage (we are temporarily on a reduced payment plan of $530) count as preferential treatment? I am also paying $175 month to our HOA in back assessments/interest/late fees. The lawyer we consulted with said we could include that or not in the Ch. 13. I'm thinking I'd rather not- I'd rather my $ go to my local HOA than creditors. (Is that awful of me?) Would paying that be preferential treament?

    3. Any tax returns, or larger amount of unexpected $ we receive post filing will go to the trustee, correct? Will that just increase the amount we pay, or is the total amount you will pay set at the beginning and if receive some unexpected $ is that just applied towards the original total and you pay it off sooner?

    Thanks so much- I feel like I have so many questions and I really want to make an informed decision regarding this. I've screwed enough up getting to this point!

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    Hi Sealpup,

    Welcome to the forums. To answer your questions:

    Tax returns: File now or later? Wont really matter as you have to be able to exempt whatever you get back in order to keep it. Some trustees require you to turn them over every year while others don't.

    Payments to creditors: A preferential payment is anything over $600 I believe (at one time - i.e, mortgage payment could be one, but usually doesnt count). Anything less than that usually isnt considered preferential, but stranger things have happened. If you know you are seriously going to pull the BK trigger - then stop paying any creditors that are not secured, like a mortgage or a car - everything else you can stop paying on if unsecured since you will be including that. use this money to pay for your lawyer.

    If you have a 2nd mortgage on your home, discuss the option of stripping it off if you qualify (value of the house must be less than what is owed to the 1st mortgage).

    HOA fees: there are many threads regarding how to deal with the HOA fees when filing BK. In a 13, any arrears can be included in your plan.

    Consult with at least 2-3 attorneys - always better to get several opinions on the matter as they differ quite often. Also note that anything you cannot exempt (i.e., vehicle that is paid off and has equity over and above what is allowed) you will have to either pay it back into your plan else turn it over to the trustee (Chapter 7 liquidation rule)

    Good luck to you!

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