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    Good and Free Advice

    Found on a Christian website uncredited:

    ATTORNEY'S ADVICE - NO CHARGE

    A corporate attorney sent the following out to the employees in his company:

    1. The next time you order checks, have only your initials (instead of first name) and last name printed on them. If someone takes your checkbook, they will not know if you sign with just your initials or your first name, but your bank will know how you sign your checks.

    2. Do not sign the back of your credit cards. Instead, put "PHOTO ID REQUIRED"

    3. When you are writing checks to pay on your credit card accounts, DO NOT put the complete account number on the "For" line. Instead, just put the last 4 numbers. The credit card company knows the rest of the number, and anyone who might be handling your check as it passes through all the check-processing channels will not have access to it.

    4. Put your work phone # on your checks instead of your home phone. If you have a PO Box, use that instead of your home address. Never have your SS# printed on your checks. You can add it if it is necessary. However, if you have it printed, anyone can get it.

    5. Place the contents of your wallet on a photo copy machine. Do both sides of each license, credit card, etc. You will know what you had in your wallet and all of the account numbers and phone numbers to call and cancel. Keep the photocopy in a safe place. Also carry a photocopy of your passport when traveling here or abroad. We have all heard horror stories about fraud that is committed on us in stealing a name, address, Social Security number, credit cards.

    6. When you check out of a hotel that uses cards for keys (and they all seem to do that now), do not turn the "keys" in! Take them with you and destroy them. Those little cards have on them all of the information you gave the hotel, including address, and credit card numbers and expiration dates. Someone with a card reader, or employee of the hotel, can access that information with no problem whatsoever.



    If your wallet is stolen, within one week, the thieves can order an expensive monthly cell phone package, apply for a Visa credit card, apply for a credit line approved to buy a Gateway computer and receive a PIN number from DMV to change your driving record information online. Here is some critical information to limit the damage in case this happens to you or someone you know:

    1. We have been told we should cancel our credit cards immediately. The key is having the toll free numbers and your credit card numbers handy so you know whom to call. Keep those where you can find them.

    2. File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where your credit cards, etc. were stolen. This proves to credit providers you were diligent, and this is a first step toward an investigation (if there ever is one). However, here is what is perhaps most important of all:

    3. Call the 3 national credit reporting organizations immediately to place a fraud alert on your name and SS#. The alert means any company that checks your credit knows your information was stolen, and they have to contact you by phone to authorize new credit. This should stop any thieves dead in their tracks.



    Now, here are the numbers you always need to contact about your wallet/purse and the contents being stolen:

    1.) EQUIFAX: 1-800-525-6285

    2.) EXPERIAN (formerly TRW): 1-888-397-3742

    3.) TransUnion: 1-800-6807289

    4.) Social Security Administration (fraud line): 1-800-269-0271


    If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

    #2
    Interesting, here are some comments.

    1. Doesn't really matter anymore (first, who still uses checks? and even then, who carries checks around?), with the 21 century check clearing act, so long as some sort of signature is present, the bank will honor the check.

    2. True, but again, when was the last time any retailer actually check...and with the rise of self check-out, probably not very good protection, but not bad advice.

    3. Good...but I would add, NEVER USE credit card convenience checks. (remember, we are anti debt here).

    4. Back to #1, instead, just be more careful with your checks. Personally, I don't carry them around. I only use them for the occasional, random bill where I can't use a debit card and it would be too much of a pain to put the payee into online bill pay.

    5. Good advice

    6. That is a new one too me...I will need to do some searching to find out if that is true, but if so, good advice.

    Regarding Fraud alert on Credit Reports, remember to lift it at some point. For all you "credit nuts," and you know who you are, a fraud alert means no credit scoring and no new credit.
    Last edited by HHM; 09-03-2012, 06:51 AM.

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      #3
      Excellent advice! This is really simple stuff that I would never even think of at all. Thanks for posting.
      Filed Ch 13 Feb 9, 2012, 341 meeting Mar 15, 2012, Confirmed Apr 5, 2012
      Anticipated freedom party Apr 2015

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        #4
        Originally posted by HHM View Post
        Interesting, here are some comments.

        1. Doesn't really matter anymore (first, who still uses checks? and even then, who carries checks around?), with the 21 century check clearing act, so long as some sort of signature is present, the bank will honor the check.

        2. True, but again, when was the last time any retailer actually check...and with the rise of self check-out, probably not very good protection, but not bad advice.

        3. Good...but I would add, NEVER USE credit card convenience checks. (remember, we are anti debt here).

        4. Back to #1, instead, just be more careful with your checks. Personally, I don't carry them around. I only use them for the occasional, random bill where I can't use a debit card and it would be too much of a pain to put the payee into online bill pay.

        5. Good advice

        6. That is a new one too me...I will need to do some searching to find out if that is true, but if so, good advice.

        Regarding Fraud alert on Credit Reports, remember to lift it at some point. For all you "credit nuts," and you know who you are, a fraud alert means no credit scoring and no new credit.
        Thanks HHM. I'm sure with our fast technology, more will become out of date. I still see quite a bit of personal checks are used still today. Here is a true story that happened to me: I was billed $1282.00 for our house insurance. I THOUGHT I paid the whole bill as I made a clerical error. I put 1282.00 on the check amount location, but I wrote "One thousand eighty two dollars 00/100". The check was cashed for on the $1082.00. The REAL AMOUNT is the hand written amount. Once realizing my clerical error, I sent the remaining $200.00 to pay in full. The insurance company gave me a notice of cancellation last week for the balance of $16. I called my agent to find out what that was all about and found this explanation; $13 was a special charge for paying in installments and $3 for two payments. What kinda deal is this? I insisted on this charge to be removed as within the same week the full amount was paid and the error was plain to see. I'm still waiting on the results. 'Hub
        If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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          #5
          I write one check a month and that is to my trustee. Other than that I do not use checks nor do I carry them around with me.

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            #6
            I still use checks quite often. I made the same mistake once with my mortgage payment and got really concerned when it didn't get cashed. Fortunately, I'm in the habit of making my payment 3 weeks early so the mortgage company sent it back to me with an explanation in time for me to get another check out to them before it was late. Before we filed BK, we used automatic payments for almost everything. I still use auto pay for things like my phone and electric but I use snail mail and checks for a lot of other things. My debit card is my tool of choice for online purchases (or Paypal) and I carry cash more than I used to but still limited to planned purchases or travel.
            Filed Ch 13 Feb 9, 2012, 341 meeting Mar 15, 2012, Confirmed Apr 5, 2012
            Anticipated freedom party Apr 2015

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              #7
              #6 may result in your credit card being charged a fee to replace the card key.

              ETA: According to snopes.com, personal information is not included on hotel card keys: http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/hotelkey.asp
              LadyInTheRed is in the black!
              Filed Chap 13 April 2010. Discharged May 2015.
              $143,000 in debt discharged for $36,500, including attorneys fees. Money well spent!

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                #8
                Nobody wants my bad credit. LOL.
                Filed August 20 341 on September 23 Report of No Distribution - September 24 Case Discharged and Closed on November 23!!!

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                  #9
                  I'm using more checks now, at least until I'm out of my 60 days and can pay my student loans and car payment online again.

                  Don't not sign your credit cards either, that's just as bad. Think of it this way, if you lost your card all someone would have to do is sign your name on the back and any cashier verifying the signature when they used it would see that it matched. Just saying.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ksgirl38 View Post
                    Don't not sign your credit cards either, that's just as bad. Think of it this way, if you lost your card all someone would have to do is sign your name on the back and any cashier verifying the signature when they used it would see that it matched. Just saying.
                    Definitely good advice which was item 2 on the list. The problem is, most people don't look for the signature in the first place. I haven't signed the back of a card in years, but just write "Please See ID." I use my debit card everywhere, and people rarely even look at the back of the card. I was in Target once and the young lady did look at the back of the card and then didn't ask for my ID. I called her on it and she said "I was just trying to be nice." I told her she would be very nice to the person who stole my card and was trying to use it." I am always sure to thank the people who do look at the back and ask for my ID.
                    LadyInTheRed is in the black!
                    Filed Chap 13 April 2010. Discharged May 2015.
                    $143,000 in debt discharged for $36,500, including attorneys fees. Money well spent!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by LadyInTheRed View Post
                      Definitely good advice which was item 2 on the list. The problem is, most people don't look for the signature in the first place. I haven't signed the back of a card in years, but just write "Please See ID." I use my debit card everywhere, and people rarely even look at the back of the card. I was in Target once and the young lady did look at the back of the card and then didn't ask for my ID. I called her on it and she said "I was just trying to be nice." I told her she would be very nice to the person who stole my card and was trying to use it." I am always sure to thank the people who do look at the back and ask for my ID.
                      Oops missed it, was in a hurry this morning.

                      I used to work in retail and I had a guy get really upset with me once because I asked him for ID since there wasn't a signature on his card. He was furious, then he went out to his car and got his ID and came back and apologized. He realized I really was looking out for him. I lectured my mom about not having a signature on the back of her card. Although I think credit card companies are taking more losses on these now and just writing them off. It seems so easy to remove fraudulent transactions anymore.

                      What I don't understand is those debit card machines all the stores use now. There's no way that when I use one of those that it looks anything like my signature. Makes me wonder if those are easily disputable transactions. Cashiers rarely ask for ID when you use those.

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                        #12
                        I, too have had very few cashiers ask for a picture ID to back up the name on the card I was using.

                        Interestingly enough, it was the 'mentally challenged' folks hired by a local food market that insisted on seeing the photo ID to match the name on my card. Trust me, those people appreciated their jobs and did them well. Sadly, it seems the grant program that allowed that store to hire those folks ran out, and I no longer see them. I wonder how they are doing....

                        As for the signature machines: 'rats phooey' and some other strong language I can think of. There is no way my actual signature looks anything like what results....
                        "To go bravely forward is to invite a miracle."

                        "Worry is the darkroom where negatives are formed."

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