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    #16
    Since you're in an apartment complex, I'm jumping in feet first...

    Most complexes have some sort of system where vendors have to sign out keys. They're not supposed to take them off the property. Nothing to really stop them though since they're not monitored constantly. And, though the vendors work for reputable companies-there is never a guarantee that no bad seeds will work for them. And since Home Depot, Walmart, etc. make key copies for $1 or so-its easy to get it done. And, maintenance techs have access to make duplicate keys on site. Heck-I could cut you a key if I had access to the key machine!

    Has there been pest control recently, or any maintenance/vendor work in your apartment such as carpet cleaning, painting, appliance installation, etc.? Any of those occasions would have resulted in a key being issued, which would have been returned later in the day. Some vendors even work into the evening hours, returning keys in the night drop box.

    From my days of working onsite at apartment communities-2 situations/real stories:

    1. We found out the hard way that our maintenance tech was not changing locks before new moveins. How'd we find out? A 'friend' who had a key & didn't know his buddy moved out used his key to enter someone's apartment. Since we couldn't be sure how many had not been changed, we had to change locks for any that had moved in the prior 6 months or so.

    2. Had a pest control tech who stole cash from an apartment. The resident forgot he was coming, had a few hundred dollars on their counter to put towards rent. The pest control tech said he couldn't have done it, because he wasn't able to get into the apartment that day. His service sheet noted KWW (key wouldn't work). Neighbors in the building said they saw him coming out of the apartment. Well, we had an electronic key system. Though we had 2 copies of each apartment key, they had different barcodes. When we checked the key the tech checked out that day, it was the wrong key-didn't open the apartment it was supposed to. Went back in records and found that the same key had been successfully used by maintenance recently, and by the pest control on prior visits. SO I checked ALL the keys the tech had out that day. Found another one, in the next building over from where the theft happened, and that key didn't work on its right door. That resident was home, so the key wasn't used and no KWW notation. Turns out they had been swapped-each key worked the other door. We even checked back to make sure no one had those same 2 keys out at the same time on any other occasion. He thought he was smart. Noted his service sheet as if he had not been in the apartment, and made sure the key really didn't work.


    Originally posted by Ccarter718
    The next morning the first thing I did was go to Home depot and replaced all locks and got a security system installed in my apartment. Went to the leasing office and spoke with them about it, and they did nothing but check to see if they physically had the keys in there office and they did. The new locks that i've replaced they do not have a copy of that key.

    And to clear things up a little bit. I do have common sense, and i would not just blow a hole through the door not knowing what's behind it.
    Most of my information is from personal experience or HOURS and HOURS of online research. When you're searching online, keep in mind there is no guarantee that the info is completely up to date, and your situation is unique from anyone else's. Do your homework, and consult with an attorney so you can make an informed decision.

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      #17
      Like Robivi said unless Georgia has a similar castle doctrine (which will be interesting to watch cases develop here in Florida on that) .. and I don't think Georgia has the castle doctrine.

      Some people think self defense is easy to get. Sometimes in some cases yes. However if you have the chance to flee or hide even then your self defense is basically out of the book. Like i said im not 100% sure on Georgia's law on self defense.

      Anyways so sure you can go all out and have guns blazing when the doors open.. But landlords have the right to go into the apartment. So if it is the landlord then you'll be looking at a manslaughter case more than likely if he dies.

      So while I agree it's fine to defend yourself. Just don't get a gun and right when someone walks in start shooting. If you see a gun and they are pointing that's when you get the guns blazing.

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        #18
        CC - we all understand the emotion involved, I think by your last response that you were venting a bit, that is understandable. You took good measures.
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          #19
          I'd like to add to staci's post, about changing locks. When they do change the locks, they simply swap the lockset out with that of another vacant unit. Its not a new lock with new keys, its a used lock with keys other people have had and made copies of! Why would the complex buy new locks if they aren't broken? They will reuse every last thing they can.

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