What we all knew.....

[albacore44]

here's a believer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

[DeadManCrawling]

I come down with both camps in some ways, and totally against both in other ways.

I generally feel that ALL politicians have done the country very grave damage that we may not recover from. Certainly WILL NOT recover from in many ways.

Even if "recovery" is achieved, who gets to write that definition? Is it recovery if my son ends up with a life that is 50% less fulfilling than mine, yours, or our parents? And what does 50% mean? Economic? Measure of happiness? Can you even measure such things.

One constant seems to be this: We all seem to agree that our standard of living and way of life is slipping dangerously.

As I have said before, I believe the real culprit is the actual system itself. When fearmongers on the right are battling with fearmongers on the left, and people blindly believe either side, we all lose. Then it becomes a race to spend the most money, which it has, to propagate a political agenda. Nowhere in this equation is an American agenda, a path by which we might, as a group, lift ourselves out of what most of us see as a march to the third world standard of life.

In our partisan bickering, we lose ourselves, and so risk losing everything else.

[banca rotta]

Well said DMC!

I also agree that "partisan bickering" is counter productive. I have stated many times here and in other places that we look like fools arguing with one another over d & r politics. Clinton the "liberal" deregulated wall street, bush 43 the "compassionate conservative" spent us into oblivion and Obama is now lighting the fuse of our fiscal and economic destruction.

I can go on but you get the point. They are both the same thing! They are the same party as far as I am concerned. I almost don't even consider these people part of the human race! What they are is beyond any words I can think of.

[WhatMoney]

here's a believer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

Sorry albacore, nowhere in her comment did she refer to Obama as her "savior".

The overweight black mother in the interview, Peggy Fisher, has become the poster child for everything the right wingers hate. Her 2008 comments after attending an Obama rally were spread over every right wing and white supremacist website all over the world.

Just read the text replies to the You-tube video, where the N words and the crude profanity of the racists can't contain themselves. It was the same thing on every conservative website that ran this video - pure unadulterated hatred and racist comments in response to the video. It tells me where many of the ultra conservatives are really coming from.

If I attempted to quote some of the racist conservative comments about Peggy Fisher, the editor banned words filter would kill them.

I can find some one-toothed white trash redneck in his singlewide spouting about how he loved Sarah Palin and she would solve all his problems too. There are idiots voting on both sides of the political spectrum.

[OhioFiler]

I come down with both camps in some ways, and totally against both in other ways.

I generally feel that ALL politicians have done the country very grave damage that we may not recover from. Certainly WILL NOT recover from in many ways.

Even if "recovery" is achieved, who gets to write that definition? Is it recovery if my son ends up with a life that is 50% less fulfilling than mine, yours, or our parents? And what does 50% mean? Economic? Measure of happiness? Can you even measure such things.

One constant seems to be this: We all seem to agree that our standard of living and way of life is slipping dangerously.

As I have said before, I believe the real culprit is the actual system itself. When fearmongers on the right are battling with fearmongers on the left, and people blindly believe either side, we all lose. Then it becomes a race to spend the most money, which it has, to propagate a political agenda. Nowhere in this equation is an American agenda, a path by which we might, as a group, lift ourselves out of what most of us see as a march to the third world standard of life.

In our partisan bickering, we lose ourselves, and so risk losing everything else.

I have no direct interest in any particular party. I have an ideological mindset that is based in the principles of our Constitution and the intentions of our founding fathers. That those concepts are most present in today's Republican party forces me to support right leaning candidates.

Sadly, we are stuck with a two party system and one must choose the party most likely to support one's own ideas.