Why I Cry For America

[JRScott]

The transition to a service based economy that occurred over the last 20 years means the service base will be used to pull up the middle class.

Our economy will come roaring back if Washington stops spending us into debt we can never repay and stops taxing ALL classes so much. Obama thinks his new tax on banks won't affect the consumer. He lives in a universe detached from reality. ALL taxes ultimately are bore by the consumer. Look at the silly cigarette taxes designed to punish the manufacturers. It's the smoking public who bares that tax and the highest rate of smoking per capita is among the lower class. Remember the luxury tax on fancy cars and boats? That tax nearly destroyed those markets. Typical government intervention.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Service jobs pay less than half the wages of most of the manufacturing jobs we lost. It will not lift up the middle class. Keep in mind also that to buy services you have to have money, no manufacturing, no money, eventually no service jobs.....

[LimpDisc]

Things are changing like never before. Look at the polling numbers for Obama. Watch as more current pols decide to retire rather than face defeat in November. The general electorate will remain ill-informed or stuck watching Katie Couric to find out who to vote for but there is a huge groundswell of Americans who are tired of the status quo and it is this group who will enforce such changes.

Martha Coakley was considered a shoo-in to win the Massachusetts senate race next week. No one paid any attention to the race while the grassroots got behind an independent-thinking contender who as of today leads Martha by 4 points in the most recent poll.

Things are changing.

I hope you're thinking this huge groundswell will vote for 3rd party candidates. If elected, Scott Brown will tow the republican line just the same as a newly elected Democrat.

We've already been down this road too many times. The American people were tired of the status quo when they kicked the Republicans to the curb. So now you think the answer is to kick the Democrats to the curb and put Republicans back in control. Do you not think both parties had an equal hand in whats happened to this great country?

God help us all!

When will this evil cycle end? When will people really wise up to the fact that all politicians are the same?

We have plenty of reasons to cry for this great country.

[backtoschool]

Service jobs pay less than half the wages of most of the manufacturing jobs we lost. It will not lift up the middle class. Keep in mind also that to buy services you have to have money, no manufacturing, no money, eventually no service jobs.....

I totally agree with you JRScott. Replacing an auto manufacturing job with a job making lattes at Starbucks, or a job making copies at Kinkos, or a job as a cold-caller in a phone bank, is still a huge loss of buying power, security, and standard of living for the middle class. Those are the types of service jobs that have been created, and they are not adequate replacements for the lost manufacturing jobs.

[ForumReader]

When will this evil cycle end? When will people really wise up to the fact that all politicians are the same?

Yes, I agree. I admit I am no expert on politics, but it appears to me now is the time for Americans to start working together to improve our nation. No time for ignorance. Politicians should focus on real issues happening in the USA rather than their own personal political gains and work together. DMC, such deep thoughts about the thread you have posted.

[momisery]

Lim... When will this evil cycle end? When will people really wise up to the fact that all politicians are the same?

We have plenty of reasons to cry for this great country.

You are spot on. We need to stop blaming obama or bush and wake up to the fact that they are all selling us down the road. There is no hiding the fact that Clinton deregulated with a republcian congress behind him all the way to creat the latest mess, and Bush deregulated even more to get more people into their own homes.. or make money for wall street??? Both parties are to blame, and it will not change until we form a grass roots effort to start a new party that has "normal, average, hardworking people running for office. We need to keep in mind the right and left have the money and the media at their beck and call and they will take any measures to win. They will try to ruin any candiate that is run for office with rumors or what ever it takes to keep them from running or from winning. That is the sad truth I think, we have lost control, but will not have the guts it takes to get conrol back.

[JRScott]

Lim... When will this evil cycle end? When will people really wise up to the fact that all politicians are the same?

We have plenty of reasons to cry for this great country.

You are spot on. We need to stop blaming obama or bush and wake up to the fact that they are all selling us down the road. There is no hiding the fact that Clinton deregulated with a republcian congress behind him all the way to creat the latest mess, and Bush deregulated even more to get more people into their own homes.. or make money for wall street??? Both parties are to blame, and it will not change until we form a grass roots effort to start a new party that has "normal, average, hardworking people running for office. We need to keep in mind the right and left have the money and the media at their beck and call and they will take any measures to win. They will try to ruin any candiate that is run for office with rumors or what ever it takes to keep them from running or from winning. That is the sad truth I think, we have lost control, but will not have the guts it takes to get conrol back.

To save ourselves we have to stop sending people who desire only power to Congress and to the office of the President. Instead we must send reluctant leaders, and lovers of freedom.

What is really needed is for the states to call a Constitutional Convention. If 2/3rds of the states call for one then it can be held. In that process we need to look to pass Professor Barnett's Bill of Federalism: http://www.federalismamendment.com/

It would move a long ways to restoring the balance between state and federal power and dealing somewhat with corruption. I would add that in addition to his amendments it would be best to repeal the 17th Amendment as well and restore that US Senators are elected by their respective state legislatures.

[anykey]

We dont give a darn about Haiti. Not in the least. This will all be forgotten in 3 distractions from today. The Illuminatti keep the masses under IMF control- where as if they could break free they could make their own country nice.

As to the US being the one- I await the rebuild of WTC towers as well as Katrina.

..I wont hold my breath.

[OhioFiler]

Service jobs pay less than half the wages of most of the manufacturing jobs we lost. It will not lift up the middle class. Keep in mind also that to buy services you have to have money, no manufacturing, no money, eventually no service jobs.....

Manufacturing incomes rose (with the help of greedy unions) beyond the value the employee could provide the process. These jobs became expendable and were moved to non-union shops outside the USA. Manufacturing positions were over-paid too often. Look at the American auto worker who was earning over $60.00 per hour tightening bolts with a wrench.

Most service sector jobs are in fields like medicine, finance and computing which pay well.

The cost of services is reflected in the supply/demand curve and self-adjusting. This economy will rebound if Washington gets the hell out of the way.

[OhioFiler]

I hope you're thinking this huge groundswell will vote for 3rd party candidates. If elected, Scott Brown will tow the republican line just the same as a newly elected Democrat.

We've already been down this road too many times. The American people were tired of the status quo when they kicked the Republicans to the curb. So now you think the answer is to kick the Democrats to the curb and put Republicans back in control. Do you not think both parties had an equal hand in whats happened to this great country?

God help us all!

When will this evil cycle end? When will people really wise up to the fact that all politicians are the same?

We have plenty of reasons to cry for this great country.

Scott Brown was swept into office by an electorate demanding change. That change is for less government interference, less taxation and strong national defense. All three of these are conservative principles that the hijacked by the progressives Democrat party used to support. The conservative platform is much more in tune with the current Republican party though too many of the republican officeholders are RINO's and must be dismissed.

Not all politicians are the same. The "evil cycle" is ending. By November, Obama will be fully neutered and his far-left socialist agenda cast aside.

The electorate voted Obama into office because he was black and the liberal mainstream media refused to examine his platform and history. The 2008 vote had nothing to do with ridding the country of republicans. In fact, had the republicans offered up a real conservative rather than RINO McCain the race would have been very close and may have gone the other way.

[OhioFiler]

To save ourselves we have to stop sending people who desire only power to Congress and to the office of the President. Instead we must send reluctant leaders, and lovers of freedom.

What is really needed is for the states to call a Constitutional Convention. If 2/3rds of the states call for one then it can be held. In that process we need to look to pass Professor Barnett's Bill of Federalism: http://www.federalismamendment.com/

It would move a long ways to restoring the balance between state and federal power and dealing somewhat with corruption. I would add that in addition to his amendments it would be best to repeal the 17th Amendment as well and restore that US Senators are elected by their respective state legislatures.

Brilliant!

[OhioFiler]

We dont give a darn about Haiti. Not in the least. This will all be forgotten in 3 distractions from today. The Illuminatti keep the masses under IMF control- where as if they could break free they could make their own country nice.

As to the US being the one- I await the rebuild of WTC towers as well as Katrina.

..I wont hold my breath.

What a shame you use the word "We". Speak for yourself. This country has ALWAYS risen to the occasion and helped others in need and Haiti is just the most recent example.

I find the "I hate my country" crowd sickening.

[LimpDisc]

Look at the American auto worker who was earning over $60.00 per hour tightening bolts with a wrench.

That $60\hour number is a bunch of crap!

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/do_auto_workers_really_make_more_than.html

Q: Do auto workers really make more than $70 per hour?

A: No. That figure is derived from what the auto companies pay in wages, health, retirement and other benefits, and includes the cost of providing benefits to retirees.

[LimpDisc]

Scott Brown was swept into office by an electorate demanding change. That change is for less government interference, less taxation and strong national defense. All three of these are conservative principles that the hijacked by the progressives Democrat party used to support. The conservative platform is much more in tune with the current Republican party though too many of the republican officeholders are RINO's and must be dismissed.

Not all politicians are the same. The "evil cycle" is ending. By November, Obama will be fully neutered and his far-left socialist agenda cast aside.

The electorate voted Obama into office because he was black and the liberal mainstream media refused to examine his platform and history. The 2008 vote had nothing to do with ridding the country of republicans. In fact, had the republicans offered up a real conservative rather than RINO McCain the race would have been very close and may have gone the other way.

Republicans were swept out of the White House, Senate and House by an electorate demanding change. What did we get? Crap!

Why is it that not one current elected Republican will stand up to the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck? Those nut cases are NOT the true Republican party, but they sure do seem to speak for it.

[LimpDisc]

This country has ALWAYS risen to the occasion and helped others in need and Haiti is just the most recent example.

Helping others in need is what this health care debate is about. I don't know how to fix health care, but I expect both parties to work together to figure it out.

I'm all for helping people from around the world, but I am also for helping people at home.

[OhioFiler]

Republicans were swept out of the White House, Senate and House by an electorate demanding change. What did we get? Crap!

Why is it that not one current elected Republican will stand up to the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck? Those nut cases are NOT the true Republican party, but they sure do seem to speak for it.

I don't believe any of those you mention claim to be "true republican party members".

Why are they nut cases anyway?