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    #61
    Originally posted by Willy13 View Post
    In my opinion, we are doomed no matter how you look at it. The question is how long do we have before it all goes bust. I hate to be a pessimist but it's simple math. Ever growing human population means we constantly need to create new jobs. The increased demand for jobs will drive down wages because of too much supply in the work force. Just look what the added cheap labor from China and India did to our wages and jobs. The earth has finite space so living space decreases every year making that space more valuable and unaffordable especially when wages are driven down at the same time. This isn't a prediction, this is what has been happening the past few decades in this country. The booms and recessions are just little hick ups in the big downward spiral. I don't see anything changing that in the future short of another great pandemic or global catastrophic war reseting the whole process so it starts all over. It's not much different than your typical pyramid scheme in my eyes. I believe this is why civilizations have come and gone since the dawn of time. They all reach a point where they become too big and can no longer sustain themselves regardless of their economic system. All the funny economic numbers games between conservatives, liberals, capitalists, socialists, whatever you want to call them, will not escape this inevitable fact that the numbers don't add up in the end. Maybe if we become space travelers and we can eliminate the finite space and resources part of the equation and grow exponentially forever, then maybe we can break the cycle. I just hope I'm dead and gone before this whole planet finally goes bust.

    Just the way I see things.
    You know 400 years ago this continent was very green. The people lived in harmony with the land, even if not amongst themselves. It was a much simpler life. The many folks who preach about the green cause are among its worst browns. Take Al Gore, ever noticed how he always uses a private plane, lives in a mansion that is 1000 times what he needs, etc. Same with Madonna, and many other green advocates. In truth they want something to bring their names into the spotlight but aren't willing to really make the sacrifices in their lives to live as they say.

    You have a good point though on the jobs front. It is time to expand our horizon. If our old jobs are lost to us, we must retool and reinvent. We could easily revitalize America but it would be a new America. To do so we'd need to reach beyond our land, beyond our sky into the space beyond. Moon mining could become a major industry, from their to the asteroids and colonization of Luna, Mars, Venus and Mercury. (All of which are possible given current technologies). The cost would be tremendous though and it would require a reeducation of our work force. But it is a forward looking plan. Automobile assembly workers could just be taught to build spacecraft or other such items. The death of one such industry doesn't mean there is no jobs, you just have to look for them.
    May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
    July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
    September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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