Is President Obama Our Savior?

[JRScott]

Obama got his Stimulus plan.

House Passes Stimulus Plan

Now, if only the money would "trickle" down to all of us who really need to money/help asap.

Do you think this plan (if passed by the Senate) will help Americans get on the right track to prosperity again?

The stimulus plan is worse than what we have now.

It will result in hyperinflation within 5 years where the goods and services you pay for could easily double in price.

Basically its a grab bag of special projects and such that everyone piled into one package. We'd be much better off to break each component part into a separate bill and vote on each. They won't do that because Washington knows half that stuff would never fly but by lumping it together they might get it through.

Thus Obama has yet to bring any meaningful change to Washington....

[JRScott]

One of the problems with limiting malpractice award in relation to income is that many people who are injured in malpractice are not employed. Children who are injured by improper drug dosages come to mind. When I was 14 a doctor injured me severely by his stupid mistake and it led to the loss of a lung!!! Even the other doctors could not believe what he had done. My surgeon walked into the hospital room and excused the incompetent doctor out of the room as he was taking over. Would one really think my settlement should be 20x my income?....that would be zero to suffer for the next 70 years.

I know a bit about healthcare costs and we have seen a dramatic rise since the 1980's which can be directly linked to the profits of hospitals, drug companies and insurance companies. Prior to 1980 hospitals were generally non-profit or not-for-profit. Reagan changed that to allow hospitals to garner a profit thereby opening market and free choice which would result in (he predicted) lower costs.
We learn the same rule over and over again....if we allow the free market to run unchecked we are trampled by the greed of corporate leaders.

You could include a provision for children who suffer lifetime injuries. You could base their award on either their parents income or the state's medium income, but then you would need to hold it in a trust to keep parents from raiding it. The trust should be able to pay any medical expenses necessary from the funds though.

[fltoo]

Who said I liked big government? I don't.

Who said I was a hater? I'm not.

As for choice, well - HE had the wrong VP candidate - if it wasn't for that wrong move -- your Capitalist Prez would be in office right now.

Actually, I think HE had a great VP candidate. Obama was the one with the idiot for VP. The media did a hatchet job on Palin. Could be why Caroline Kennedy dropped out of the Senate race. Takes a lot of b..lls to stand up to the media the way Palin did. Biden was lucky the media was leaning left because he would have been a great target.

Possibly, if the bill gets rid of the pork, the Senate might just pass it. Is this good news? Who knows. We are in unchartered waters.

Bottom line, someone already said it, we need to band together and support Obama in his endeavors. I do believe he will turn out to be a centrist. He is a pretty smart dude.

[freshcredit]

[fltoo]

My favorite is the Amtrak. Like we haven't pumped tens of millions into it over the past years to no avail.

As far as the furniture for Homeland, maybe they can purchase it at Rooms to Go on the buy now, pay in 2010 program.

What is sad, is that this bill will do nothing to stimulate the economy and this is our last shot. How would we ever be able to spend this amount of money again?

[magyar123]

At least he's sticking it to the big banks who received bailout money, by limiting banks' bosses' salaries to $500,000, and limiting their stock income payouts to when they leave.

[magyar123]

The above news however does not apply to the ones that already received bailout funds - the biggest crooks - AGI, Citi, and B of A.

[AngelinaCatHub]

Once I heard a quote: "Eat, Drink, and be Merry, for tomorrow we die." Mrs. is the intellect in the house so I have no idea from where it comes.

Bammy is near in popularity and his attitude of “My way, or no way” as I just saw on the news, reminds me of history. Shall we repeat the demise of Germany in the 30’s?

That great airship called Hindenburg, was named after the last German President and AH came in.

I see he wishes an internal army of police large enough to equal our normal troops. Why?

I sure hope I am wrong, but as a scholar of the Constitution, it was made in stone and not what the lib’s wish to cal a “living and breathing item”. It is not, it is like the Bible, in that it is rules for us to live by.

This regime has and is taking over many businesses with this ‘so-called’ stimulus. Now they are telling those who sold their company’s soul, how to do their own business.

Everyone on the street I see, green dollars in their own eyes mumbling “stimulus” to themselves. It reminds me of another quote I cannot contribute to; “if they have no bread, let them eat cake”.

Only my opinion. I see my opinion in eyes of fear. I predict in eight years, we will not see another public election. ‘Hub

[fltoo]

At least he's sticking it to the big banks who received bailout money, by limiting banks' bosses' salaries to $500,000, and limiting their stock income payouts to when they leave.

There is something profoundly wrong with government capping salaries in the private sector.

Unfortunately, when the banks and AIG took bailout money, they opened Pandora's box. Our forefathers and our immigrant fathers who came here for freedom and the pursuit of happiness must be rolling in their graves.

[banca rotta]

There is something profoundly wrong with government capping salaries in the private sector.

Unfortunately, when the banks and AIG took bailout money, they opened Pandora's box. Our forefathers and our immigrant fathers who came here for freedom and the pursuit of happiness must be rolling in their graves.

I agree! These are not normal circumstances though. If you need Government assistance just like a welfare recipient or a bk filer such as we are then you have to prove you are in need and make a sacrifice.

An executive that took govt welfare funds to kill a company should be thankfull for the 500k. I would have made it 200k. If it's not good enough then no bailout money and fail.

[AngelinaCatHub]

I agree! These are not normal circumstances though. If you need Government assistance just like a welfare recipient or a bk filer such as we are then you have to prove you are in need and make a sacrifice.

An executive that took govt welfare funds to kill a company should be thankfull for the 500k. I would have made it 200k. If it's not good enough then no bailout money and fail.

[fltoo]

Actually, we could have had them submit tax returns and monthly expenses and base their salary on how much they needed to support their family, not including luxury items. LOL

The sky is the limit when you get welfare bailouts.

[Kansas1960]

The Green Revolution is the glue

All the youth are sold on Green which is mostly bull. This got the vote for "cool" Obama. Now the "world" is blaming capitialism and week by week we are headed towards socialism and being cheered on by Keith Oberman, Rachael, Chris Matthews, MSNBC and NBC. Puff Daddy and all his Hollywood friends are "cool" with Obama and all the zombie uneducated Americans with Ipods stuck in their ears following them like sheep. We are dead as a country, a bunch of pussies (if I can say that here). Very few voices left and they will soon be silenced. Soon Johnny will no longer have a choice what he wants to be when he gets out of college, the government will tell him. In our lifetime we will be under UN control and it was all of you who voted for change. I carry no mark on my forhead because I did not vote for him. I am getting out of dollar denominated investments every chance I get. Has anyone here ever tried to buy gold? Just try to find some, it is very hard to get. And when you do find some, better pay cash and keep no paper trail.

[Willy13]

In my opinion, we are doomed no matter how you look at it. The question is how long do we have before it all goes bust. I hate to be a pessimist but it's simple math. Ever growing human population means we constantly need to create new jobs. The increased demand for jobs will drive down wages because of too much supply in the work force. Just look what the added cheap labor from China and India did to our wages and jobs. The earth has finite space so living space decreases every year making that space more valuable and unaffordable especially when wages are driven down at the same time. This isn't a prediction, this is what has been happening the past few decades in this country. The booms and recessions are just little hick ups in the big downward spiral. I don't see anything changing that in the future short of another great pandemic or global catastrophic war reseting the whole process so it starts all over. It's not much different than your typical pyramid scheme in my eyes. I believe this is why civilizations have come and gone since the dawn of time. They all reach a point where they become too big and can no longer sustain themselves regardless of their economic system. All the funny economic numbers games between conservatives, liberals, capitalists, socialists, whatever you want to call them, will not escape this inevitable fact that the numbers don't add up in the end. Maybe if we become space travelers and we can eliminate the finite space and resources part of the equation and grow exponentially forever, then maybe we can break the cycle. I just hope I'm dead and gone before this whole planet finally goes bust.

Just the way I see things.

[Willy13]

Has anyone here ever tried to buy gold?

At times I wonder if you should just cut to the chase and stock up on nonperishable foods and survival supplies.

What a doomsday fatalist I've become lol