9-11 Video footage comparisons

[Lacy]

Insulting members & name calling that way is against the code of conduct. You better go read it.

Bandit its a troll ... I just read some of its post. Just ignore it and it will get bored and eventually go away.

[Bandit]

Bandit its a troll ... I just read some of its post. Just ignore it and it will get bored and eventually go away.

[Scott50]

I think people have a right (and should) question what really happened on 9/11 since this is the reason that the US Govt gave for justification to invade Afghanistan and later Iraq (links to terrorism).. Our country has been in a downward spiral since 9/11- economically, world opinion of the US is in the gutter, when all is said and done- we'll have spent almost a trillion dollars for the invasion of Iraq and to rebuild the country- for what?? The Iraq's don't want us there and there's a good chance that when we leave they will be allies with Iran (Shiites Moslems stick together).. The only result of the invasion was to replace one regime (Saddam) with another that doesn't like us and the US taxpayer will have foot the bill and our country will be deeper in debt..

[HHM]

You have not given me anything to exam. I am not going to watch hours & days of video that you yourself cannot even offer those few moments to debunk the OP.

Watching what? You should be able to pinpoint exactly what you think I should watch...not me chasing you. If you are calling it a conspiracy theory then start debunking it.

I am not the one who claims to have the answer, but you do, while giving no facts of your own.
I am challenging you to do your investigation because you are providing an answer with no proof.

How about you prove your conspiracy theory instead. I don't claim to have the answer, but don't you think it is a fair starting point to review the actual footage in context. If your not willing to be skeptical of your own theories, what's the point.

I don't think you even looked at the page, if you had, you would find that all the broadcasts are categorized by date and time. The you tube video actually tells you in the beginning the specific broadcast it used.

To even make it easier, you can click on the link and to the left you will find a thumbnail link that shows roughly the content of the video so you can narrow down which ones you want to watch.

As I said above, you only take in the 5% of the story that happens to fit your narrow and misguided view, but ignore the the other 95% of the story.

You made the affirmative assertion that the video was edited by the media based on 5 seconds of footage and you don't even have the guts to check the source, that is pathetic. If you want to prove something, get more facts, compare that footage to other footage taken at the same time. I have presented you with the opportunity. It is not my job to debunk an assertion that hasn't even been proved.

[Scott50]

By 2010 we will need [a further] 50 million barrels a day. The Middle East, with two-thirds of the oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize lies." - US Vice President Dick Cheney, then Halliburton chief executive officer, London, autumn 1999

[banca rotta]

Bandit, I don't even know why I am taking 30 seconds out of my life discussing this with you but my question is, do you and the others that think like you have more evidence?

The original video you posted is not enough for me since so many other videos and witnesses saw what they saw.

If you had a stock pile of evidence and credable witnesses I would give you the benefit of the doubt. What you have is not enough. You are doing this because you are "anti-Bush".

I too am "anti-Bush" because Bush catered to liberals like you between high social spending, fighting a war with politically correct tactics and allowing illegals to cross the borders. You aught to love Bush.

[Bandit]

How about you prove your conspiracy theory instead. I don't claim to have the answer, but don't you think it is a fair starting point to review the actual footage in context. If your not willing to be skeptical of your own theories, what's the point.

I don't think you even looked at the page, if you had, you would find that all the broadcasts are categorized by date and time. The you tube video actually tells you in the beginning the specific broadcast it used.

To even make it easier, you can click on the link and to the left you will find a thumbnail link that shows roughly the content of the video so you can narrow down which ones you want to watch.

As I said above, you only take in the 5% of the story that happens to fit your narrow and misguided view, but ignore the the other 95% of the story.

You made the affirmative assertion that the video was edited by the media based on 5 seconds of footage and you don't even have the guts to check the source, that is pathetic. If you want to prove something, get more facts, compare that footage to other footage taken at the same time. I have presented you with the opportunity. It is not my job to debunk an assertion that hasn't even been proved.

I never called it a conspiracy theory. You did.


absolutley & you have not proven it wrong yet. so you should be doing the same

I am not the one here claiming a theory- other than the footage was altered. You have not proven that it was not tampered with when it was shown on TV at night.

I have seen plenty of footage & can post it for days, but why would I do that.

At least you admit you don't know the answer & that I respect you for.

[Bandit]

Bandit, I don't even know why I am taking 30 seconds out of my life discussing this with you but my question is, do you and the others that think like you have more evidence?

The original video you posted is not enough for me since so many other videos and witnesses saw what they saw.

If you had a stock pile of evidence and credable witnesses I would give you the benefit of the doubt. What you have is not enough. You are doing this because you are "anti-Bush".

I too am "anti-Bush" because Bush catered to liberals like you between high social spending, fighting a war with politically correct tactics and allowing illegals to cross the borders. You aught to love Bush.

But what do you think is trying to be proven? other than the footage was altered. It is obvious that it was.

anti bush has nothing to do with it. The entire globe is anti bush. How does that answer the questions on the video though?

[Bandit]

I think people have a right (and should) question what really happened on 9/11 since this is the reason that the US Govt gave for justification to invade Afghanistan and later Iraq (links to terrorism).. Our country has been in a downward spiral since 9/11- economically, world opinion of the US is in the gutter, when all is said and done- we'll have spent almost a trillion dollars for the invasion of Iraq and to rebuild the country- for what?? The Iraq's don't want us there and there's a good chance that when we leave they will be allies with Iran (Shiites Moslems stick together).. The only result of the invasion was to replace one regime (Saddam) with another that doesn't like us and the US taxpayer will have foot the bill and our country will be deeper in debt..

That is exactly what happened & is still happening. It all started then & has not stopped.

[Bandit]

HHM, Have you not realized yet you cannot have a rational argument with an irrational person. They will bend any bits of information to fit their pre-determined box. This is how cults keep their members, if the leader predicts something that doesn't happen, then it is because they didn't believe hard enough. Bandit chooses to believe his conspiracy and no sound argument (but maybe medication) will change his/her mind.

You dont even know what I believe about it. So how do you think you are going to change my mind when you dont even know.

[HHM]

Well, then we are at an impasse and you are being intellectually dishonest.

As you may well now, you cannot prove a negative assertion and asking someone to do so only highlights your lack of reason (here is the easy example, if I cannot prove that aliens "do not" exist, does that mean they do? No, evidence must still be presented for the assertion that aliens exists. Lack of evidence for a particular fact does make its contradiction true). You have presented no reliable evidence that the video was altered. My counter to you is simple, go look at the source footage, in context, and compare it to other footage taken at the time...it's all right there on the link I gave you.

At least I am being intellectually honest and actually looked into this a little and went to the source cited by the video YOU posted, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, I am not the one viewing the world through rose colored glasses and only picking and choosing which facets of a story to believe.

Let me ask you this Bandit: hypothetically, what would even convince you otherwise? What sort of evidence would you even accept?

[Scott50]

I actually don't care what your belief is about 911. What I am really frustrated about is I posted a legitimate BK question on here, and as I am scanning the posts looking for answers, I see the experts are all tied up it discussing something that has no purpose here and my question goes unanswered. Can't you find a proper forum for you and your dungeons and dragons buddies to go chirping about your theories and allow everyone to concentrate on.....let me think...... oh yeah...BANKRUPTCY QUESTIONS.

Not sure if you realize that this was posted in the General Talk:
Everything NON-bankruptcy related forum ???

[AngelinaCatHub]

I actually don't care what your belief is about 911. What I am really frustrated about is I posted a legitimate BK question on here, and as I am scanning the posts looking for answers, I see the experts are all tied up it discussing something that has no purpose here and my question goes unanswered. Can't you find a proper forum for you and your dungeons and dragons buddies to go chirping about your theories and allow everyone to concentrate on.....let me think...... oh yeah...BANKRUPTCY QUESTIONS.

[AngelinaCat]

I actually don't care what your belief is about 911. What I am really frustrated about is I posted a legitimate BK question on here, and as I am scanning the posts looking for answers, I see the experts are all tied up it discussing something that has no purpose here and my question goes unanswered. Can't you find a proper forum for you and your dungeons and dragons buddies to go chirping about your theories and allow everyone to concentrate on.....let me think...... oh yeah...BANKRUPTCY QUESTIONS.

Yes, I saw your question, and had my NoloPress C7 book out open to the list of Texas exemptions, and was searching the Texas Statutes attempting to help with your question, when you lashed out at me, for no legitimate reason.

So I shut the book, and put it back on the shelf and went on to someone more appreciative.

[Bandit]

I actually don't care what your belief is about 911. What I am really frustrated about is I posted a legitimate BK question on here, and as I am scanning the posts looking for answers, I see the experts are all tied up it discussing something that has no purpose here and my question goes unanswered. Can't you find a proper forum for you and your dungeons and dragons buddies to go chirping about your theories and allow everyone to concentrate on.....let me think...... oh yeah...BANKRUPTCY QUESTIONS.

because they are not going to go to your question because you are one of the rudest people to hit this forum in about a year.

We can talk about anything we want to in this part of the forum. If you dont like it then don't read it.