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    #16
    Originally posted by JRScott View Post
    Yes I do, they were elected to be representatives of their States, not to run for president of the United States. They should have resigned their seats if they were not going to fulfill the job of Senator or Representative that the people elected them too.

    And no it was not a coincidence. They do that so that the other candidate can't attack them on their votes, but I see voting present or not voting at all to be worse as they were elected to the Congress to represent the people of their districts or states.

    we are on the same page. it is just more of their dirty little tactics so they dont have to answer to anyone and/or they really dont give 2 cents as their personal agenda is more important. It is almost like you can see their scheme & when it kind of started through some of those here votes.

    but then you can look at some of the others in congress & you know they are working their tails off for their people.

    I was watching Lou Dobbs tonight & have not seen the man for over a month. But I am very glad we have media like him keeping them in the spot light for their dirty deeds done dirt cheap.

    He cracks me up!

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      #17
      Well you guys can complain and rant all you want. You are all politically naive to think a candidate for POTUS should resign their day job before they even win the primary. Should the other five Democratic losers in the primary have resigned too? No reason to keep your elected Senator job even if you lose the primary, right?

      Unlike you poor guys in your apparently miserably represented states, my State Senators are responsive to our needs - they are by no means full of shit and only power hungry, as Bandit thinks all politicians are. There are even similiarities of Obama to Lincoln, who was hated by the poor whites (who were afraid ending slavery would upset the superiority they felt over the slaves). Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot in nine southern states in the 1860 presidential election. And he only had a one term stay in the House before he was elected President, hardly a born leader at the time.

      ThankGod there is a a younger and more progressive generation on the horizon for this country.
      “When fascism comes to America, it’ll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross” — Sinclair Lewis

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        #18
        Originally posted by WhatMoney View Post
        Well you guys can complain and rant all you want. You are all politically naive to think a candidate for POTUS should resign their day job before they even win the primary. Should the other five Democratic losers in the primary have resigned too? No reason to keep your elected Senator job even if you lose the primary, right?

        Unlike you poor guys in your apparently miserably represented states, my State Senators are responsive to our needs - they are by no means full of shit and only power hungry, as Bandit thinks all politicians are. There are even similiarities of Obama to Lincoln, who was hated by the poor whites (who were afraid ending slavery would upset the superiority they felt over the slaves). Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot in nine southern states in the 1860 presidential election. And he only had a one term stay in the House before he was elected President, hardly a born leader at the time.

        ThankGod there is a a younger and more progressive generation on the horizon for this country.
        They should have all resigned. In spending time running for President they neglected the duties to those that sent them to Congress, and thus did not perform their duties. Not just the Democrats either but the Republicans as well (Paul and Hunter).

        The people basically paid them for almost 2 years to run for another office without really getting what they paid for. It's like you opening up a shop and a guy showing up at the time clock, punching in, then going home for 8 hours, then coming back to punch out then expecting to get paid for 8 hours work. Any other job, professional or otherwise you did that you'd be fired and we need to hold our politicians to the same standards as any other employee.

        There is so little difference between Obama and McCain that its sad folks can't see it. They only really differ in methodology. Obama plans to pay for his programs through new taxes. McCain plans to pay through his with more deficit spending. We can't really afford either.
        Last edited by JRScott; 06-15-2008, 01:52 AM.
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          #19
          Originally posted by WhatMoney View Post
          Well you guys can complain and rant all you want. You are all politically naive to think a candidate for POTUS should resign their day job before they even win the primary. Should the other five Democratic losers in the primary have resigned too? No reason to keep your elected Senator job even if you lose the primary, right?

          Unlike you poor guys in your apparently miserably represented states, my State Senators are responsive to our needs - they are by no means full of shit and only power hungry, as Bandit thinks all politicians are. There are even similiarities of Obama to Lincoln, who was hated by the poor whites (who were afraid ending slavery would upset the superiority they felt over the slaves). Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot in nine southern states in the 1860 presidential election. And he only had a one term stay in the House before he was elected President, hardly a born leader at the time.

          ThankGod there is a a younger and more progressive generation on the horizon for this country.
          & you certainly are entitled to your opinion & you also have your right to put all your love & trust into any politician that meets your fancy. If your senator is so great in your eyes then you should be thankful, but to be so naive to not acknowledge the corruption is congress, is just that.

          Nothing wrong with being young & progressive but there is something wrong with big fat lying, lazy politicians. I also reserve the right to call them as I see them. & mcC & oBa are double talking liars, not quite as good of a liar as Bush though & they will never compare to Lincoln.
          Last edited by Bandit; 06-15-2008, 05:27 AM.

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            #20
            Originally posted by JRScott View Post
            They should have all resigned. In spending time running for President they neglected the duties to those that sent them to Congress, and thus did not perform their duties. Not just the Democrats either but the Republicans as well (Paul and Hunter).

            There is so little difference between Obama and McCain that its sad folks can't see it. They only really differ in methodology. Obama plans to pay for his programs through new taxes. McCain plans to pay through his with more deficit spending. We can't really afford either.
            They are both morons. They dont even have a plan except the same old pick my nose plan. but you are right about taxes going up through the roof as the dems take it this fall.

            while there are so many good ones who could lead this country...makes no sense.

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              #21
              but to be so naive to not acknowledge the corruption is congress, is just that.
              Never said that or anything even close to that - stop misquoting me.

              Of course Congress as a whole is more responsive to lobbyist money than us ordinary citizens. But I think the "fat and lazy power hungry" ones you keep ranting about must be a midwest and southern US thing. Remember you (the electorate) elected them - some states get what they deserve.
              “When fascism comes to America, it’ll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross” — Sinclair Lewis

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                #22
                Originally posted by WhatMoney View Post
                Never said that or anything even close to that - stop misquoting me.

                Of course Congress as a whole is more responsive to lobbyist money than us ordinary citizens. But I think the "fat and lazy power hungry" ones you keep ranting about must be a midwest and southern US thing. Remember you (the electorate) elected them - some states get what they deserve.

                i quoted you properly. you just dont like my interpretation of your quote.

                so now you say the midwest & southern states are what? getting what they deserve? do you mind explaining?

                I do not trust or agree with US government (or any country government) period so I would not vote for half of those people as a leader. Bush sits right there with 'Kim Jong-il as far as I am concerned.

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                  #23
                  I am saying the voters of a state determine who their congresscritters are by electing them. If you think your Senator is fat and lazy, then stop voting for fat and lazy candidates. Clearly obesity is a Southern and Midwest thing. Check out the map - are you in a fat state?



                  Now "powerhungry", well that would apply to anyone willing to run for political office, especially at the national level. CEO's are powerhungry too; takes some drive and ambition to get anywhere in this world. Running for POTUS requires a gigantic ego. Even your buddy Lincoln had one. But at least he wasn't fat.
                  “When fascism comes to America, it’ll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross” — Sinclair Lewis

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                    #24
                    but that is not all true. many voters choose someone else to lead them but they get stuck with someone they would not serve a cracker to because they are looking for something a little more than lip service.

                    Now "powerhungry", well that would apply to anyone willing to run for political office, especially at the national level. CEO's are powerhungry too; takes some drive and ambition to get anywhere in this world. Running for POTUS requires a gigantic ego. Even your buddy Lincoln had one. But at least he wasn't fat.
                    agreed.

                    powerhungry, fat, lazy, selfish agendas, manipulating the public, liars, bad influences, lip service, misuse of authority....take your pick

                    they get lobster, you get crackers.
                    Last edited by Bandit; 06-15-2008, 03:44 PM.

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                      #25
                      The problem WhatMoney is that to many folks are deluded by the hand outs the government gives. They aren't really concerned about their politicians so long as they perceive they get something out of it. Most of them don't realize the crippling debt our nation has. Sadly for the majority its going to take some major disaster or a major war in which we reach the breaking point and then they'll realize how bad things are.

                      We would be far better as citizens looking to the words of John F. Kennedy "Ask not what your nation can do for you, but ask what you can do for your nation." Although used in a different context it also applies to the many welfare programs and other inefficient government institutes we have. It's time to realize that the government cannot come close to meeting all our needs unless they take everything from us. I mostly fear for the poor and the aged, because when these government programs can no longer be supported due to their weight they are the ones that will suffer the most. The old adage then Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach him to fish and he eats for life will hold true. Those that have become so dependent on federal programs will find it very difficult to make it without those programs, better that we move towards that direction now and allow folks to adjust rather than waiting the 15-20 more years for them to become completely insolvent.
                      May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
                      July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
                      September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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                        #26
                        I like the K.I.S.S theroy ( keep it simple stuipd)
                        my problem is Obama say he is against Predatory lending but 2 of his team member are in involed in mortgage scams

                        This is FACT not a smear its a FACT he said we want to do something positive for the R/E market its a FACT he has these people on his team

                        I dont see how this is a smear, the man speaks of this change but he is the same old dirty flip flopping liar that they all are, he reminds me of a black John Kerry which is a bad thing
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                          #27
                          What a politician says does not relate to what he does. They are all in it for themselves. If they all had only one term of let’s say six years, they perhaps would do something to leave a legacy. But just as soon as they get in, they start to run for office for the next term and that usually means buying votes by giving perks to those who want a free ride.

                          I fear Obama as an unknown. Too much baggage and not friendly at all to the U.S. or allays. Too familiar and “warm” to our enemies.

                          This Country is being tested right now by the oil crunch. All the enemies have to do is call in all their treasury notes and it would ruin our dollar value, turn us into a major depression. Money greases the wheel of progress, some wish to penalize all those bad old Oil Companies for their profits and take it away from them. We are in WAR right now and don’t know it. It was not the bullet that took USSR down and broke up the Warsaw Pact, it was economic. We could outspend them and Reagan called their bluff. To fight back, all we would have to do is have the President make a Presidential order to uncap and use all of our own oil, and the price would hit the bottom. We have more oil in our own ground than could be used in a thousand years if we all drove 12 cylinder Jaguars. Light off Nuclear Power plants, screw the “China Syndrome” it was a political movie. Who was the actress in it? Jane ‘help the enemy’ Fonda? Our three mile island vs Russia’s Chernobyl is nothing considering the immense amount of good nuclear can do for us. We need to call the bluff of those who hate us and every little tin pan dictator such as Hugo Chavez.

                          When either get in, we will all pay in some way, taxes or inflation. Inflation is a tax, it is just more insidious. Only my opinion. ‘Hub
                          If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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                            #28
                            Very one-sided conversation going on in this topic, which started out as an attack on Obama and now extends to all politicians and government.

                            You all seem to fit the "angry small town white man falling back on their guns and religion" space, as Obama put it. He was referring to West Virginia and rural Pennsyvania at the time, but it applies to most of the Appalachia areas from Pennsylvania to northern Alabama and states east, the historic Scots-Irish settlements, as Pat Buchanan likes to remind us.

                            Libertarian Anarchy seems to be the government of choice in this topic. Will not work in a country as diverse as the United States. We'd all separate into our little religious and ethnic clans, and it'll be the McCoys and the Hatfields all over the country.

                            Opinions are still free however, so carry on.
                            Last edited by WhatMoney; 06-16-2008, 12:34 PM.
                            “When fascism comes to America, it’ll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross” — Sinclair Lewis

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                              #29
                              Attack?

                              Did you READ THE FACTS or just seen what you wanted?

                              He has a Predatory lender on his team when he stated he was agasint such acts

                              HELLO....

                              FYI I live in Vegas so the RACIST comment "angry small town white man falling back on their guns and religion" doesnt apply to me, but does make Obama look like a fool
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                                #30
                                "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian
                                Spread the Truth"

                                Taken from OBAMA's own website called Fight the smears.com

                                If I were a Muslim I would have alot agasint him right now
                                How is being a Muslim a smear?
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