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    Do BK Attorneys & Trustees Lurk Here?

    ...Of all the traffic here at BK Forum, What would you guess to be the percentage of visits,posts or responses by actual attorneys here at BK Forum? Do You ever think BK trustees ever lurk here and even possibly add their two cents (of course in an unofficial capacity...)? Or is the vast majority of traffic here simply being from debtors?

    #2
    Since this is not a "closed" forum (i.e., you don't have to be a member to view the posts - anyone on the internet can view the postings without joining), who knows who lurks or visits here. I do know of instances where postings on here have been cut out of here and put on at least one other BK board. I would say the odds are good that this forum and others are viewed by reps for creditors or trustees for the things discussed in here and advice given - especially as to committing fraud in filing.

    Attorneys don't give advice for free and since they probably would not be able to advertise on here or get paid for their advice, they do not come on.
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    Filed 5 Year Chapter 13: April 2002
    Early Buy-Out: April 2006
    Discharge: August 2006

    "A credit card is a snake in your pocket"

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      #3
      Originally posted by Flamingo View Post

      Attorneys don't give advice for free and since they probably would not be able to advertise on here or get paid for their advice, they do not come on.
      That's really a rather mercenary view. I can say with a great deal of certainty that there are attorneys who frequent these boards AND give advice, clearly without charging for it.

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        #4
        Originally posted by diviaruba View Post
        That's really a rather mercenary view. I can say with a great deal of certainty that there are attorneys who frequent these boards AND give advice, clearly without charging for it.

        I kind of thought maybe there might be some attorneys. Why wouldn't they come on here, it's a great forum and helps so many people during a very hard time in their lives!
        Filed Chapter 7 June 4 ~ 341 July 20 ~Last day of objections Sept 18~Discharged/Closed Sept 21

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          #5
          I really doubt that creditor reps, collectors, trustees troll this sight very much. They really do have better things to do. If they come here at all, it is probably more out of personal interest than any professional interest. I am not sure they would really benefit that much from coming here.

          We have had attorneys here and there, (more likely an assistant) who have tried to covertly advertise, but since they weren't really contributing, they get banned pretty quick. And I suspect that a few members maybe attorneys

          But for full disclosure, there was in incident a while back where some member had cut out a slew of another members post and "allegedly" sent the post along with a letter to a creditor that the member was posting about. I highly doubt the letter was ever sent, and even if it was, I doubt anything came of it.

          In order to offer advice, we do need members to give somewhat specific information, but you don't have to get too specific. I have yet to see a post from a member that gave sufficient information about their situation such that anyone could identify them. (Short of the few knuckleheads that give their real name as their forum name )

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            #6
            We've had a few attorney's post on the this forum since it's been around.
            The information provided is not, and should not be considered legal advice. All information provided is only informational and should be verified by a law practioner whenever possible. When confronted with legal issues contact an experienced attorney in your state who specializes in the area of law most directly called into question by your particular situation.

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              #7
              Somewhat off-topic, but to those of you who are *clearly* educated at a professionally high level in bk practice and law, well above paralegal stage -- and who, in my own opinion, could be seen on this forum from an airplane -- my heartfelt thanks for all the help, information, and especially reassurance that you have given to so many people here. If there is any one thing that has served to open my mind to a more generous view of the practitioners of your profession, it has been that.

              You know who you are. You're the ones who know case law off the top of your head, have *clearly* seen the inside of the courtroom and not just hung out in the hallway, and are instantly alert to the legal side of the various crazy-ass plans and strategies posited by stressed and exhausted lay posters on this board. You help. A LOT.

              So let me give my hearty thanks to all of you "Incredibly-Well-Versed-In-BK-Law-But-Unwilling-to-Confirm-or-Deny-Being-Attorneys People". Seriously, you rock. Thank you for being here.
              Nolo Press book on filing Chapter 7, there are others too. (I have no affiliation with Nolo Press; just a happy customer.) Best wishes to you!

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                #8
                Originally posted by HHM View Post
                I really doubt that creditor reps, collectors, trustees troll this sight very much. They really do have better things to do. If they come here at all, it is probably more out of personal interest than any professional interest. I am not sure they would really benefit that much from coming here.
                Never say "never" and I will tell you why...the firm I work for does not handle BK's but I have many friends at the firm next door to us who handle BK's and I have talked to other legal employees at other firms who handle creditor matters and general matters. Several times they have heard from clients that creditors have agents that lurk on various forums on the internet to find out what is happening out there as to the current clientele as to fraud and how to get around things. There was a poster recently on here who stated he was a creditor and I found it to be a very bizarre posting. The internet is open to anyone and if someone is looking for anything specific related to a certain topic, they will research and look. This forum is highly popular since it is a monitored forum (thank God!) so don't think that it is not looked at by other than folks filing or considering filing BK. And as always, stay anonymous and always be careful of who is trying to get information out of you.

                Thankfully my expertise in the legal world lies with corporate matters because it is a lot of work in the BK field for anyone legally involved in it and everyone should thank anyone on this forum who knows the BK laws well for their advice and time on here. I personally would not want involvement in that sector. Experience is also a good teacher but as we all know in BK, experiences can all vary. This forum would have been of an extreme help to me prior to filing but I don't know if it existed at that time but another forum gave us some horrible and incorrect advice prior to filing and I was so bummed out from that that I did not join this one until after our discharge.
                _________________________________________
                Filed 5 Year Chapter 13: April 2002
                Early Buy-Out: April 2006
                Discharge: August 2006

                "A credit card is a snake in your pocket"

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                  #9
                  Thankfully my expertise in the legal world lies with corporate matters because it is a lot of work in the BK field for anyone legally involved in it and everyone should thank anyone on this forum who knows the BK laws well for their advice and time on here.
                  Eh, I dunno. Seems like you're doing a great job already.
                  Nolo Press book on filing Chapter 7, there are others too. (I have no affiliation with Nolo Press; just a happy customer.) Best wishes to you!

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                    #10
                    Remember that trustees have large firms. My Trustee owns a huge accounting firm with a large beautiful building and many top level corporations along with other interests, his wife is THE most respected Anesthesiologist in Broward County, Florida. Her Office is next to my Dr. and in my neighborhood. I doubt that they have time or resource to come here but maybe... very doubtful.

                    More likely to lurk on the 'net, Economic Crimes Unit for your local AG. But it would be part of a specific investigation, they have alot more intrusive power than you think, your Trustee does not have the blanket authority or time that they have, and to dedicate resource to little BK's would be stupid and wasteful. The Trustee eats 97% of all BK's as they are no asset, his bucks are in the big cases, they don't come to a "Forum" but involve millions or billions of which he gets a cut, a tiny percentage that comes out to a nice sum.

                    BK Attorney's HIGHLY UNLIKELY. It takes BILLED time and resources. Most want to be away from the BS on weekends and with family at nite and are not immersed in their jobs in their offtime. That is from years of my wife working for Attorneys.

                    Sorry, but truthfully the answer is no, they don't come here. Maybe one or two but it's probably just "hey, look at this" and move on to what they were really searching for.
                    Last edited by robivi3; 05-09-2008, 12:12 PM.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
                      Never say "never" and I will tell you why...the firm I work for does not handle BK's but I have many friends at the firm next door to us who handle BK's and I have talked to other legal employees at other firms who handle creditor matters and general matters. Several times they have heard from clients that creditors have agents that lurk on various forums on the internet to find out what is happening out there as to the current clientele as to fraud and how to get around things. There was a poster recently on here who stated he was a creditor and I found it to be a very bizarre posting. The internet is open to anyone and if someone is looking for anything specific related to a certain topic, they will research and look. This forum is highly popular since it is a monitored forum (thank God!) so don't think that it is not looked at by other than folks filing or considering filing BK. And as always, stay anonymous and always be careful of who is trying to get information out of you.

                      Thankfully my expertise in the legal world lies with corporate matters because it is a lot of work in the BK field for anyone legally involved in it and everyone should thank anyone on this forum who knows the BK laws well for their advice and time on here. I personally would not want involvement in that sector. Experience is also a good teacher but as we all know in BK, experiences can all vary. This forum would have been of an extreme help to me prior to filing but I don't know if it existed at that time but another forum gave us some horrible and incorrect advice prior to filing and I was so bummed out from that that I did not join this one until after our discharge.
                      To be fair, I did not say "never"

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                        #12
                        And I suspect that a few members maybe attorneys
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