Anyone else here anti-vaccine?

[Bandit]

Ive watched the boys in our school here, they are germ bags. The even wipe POOP on the walls!! Talk about GERMS!!!WAM

ECK! Gross me out.

There should be a law & if people get caught doing that to public places, they should get arrested and have poop smeared in their face and have to clean up the mess they make. They would think twice about spreading germs making everyone else sick & the funny joke would be on them.
I have seen that a few times in public bathrooms & unless I really have to go, I will hold it until the next stop because you have no idea where all they smear the poop & not just the walls. Then the janitor or employee gets stuck doing the dirty work when the person who did it needs to clean it up & disinfect it then get thrown in a tiny little cell with no toilet for about three days & see what it is like to wallow in his own poop.

[whatamess]

ROTFLMAO!!! I can just imagine smearing the poop on these little 7 & 8 years olds faces. OMG.
My daughter had a bladder infection last year from holding it. She was so mortified by the bathroom she would not go in. The teacher would run to the lounge and was pregnant to boot.
Yet another reason I would NOT want to work with kids except my own....
WAM

[Bandit]

That reminds me of one time in 7th grade. I played trumpet & was chewing gum in band class. The sax player who I thought was my friend narked on me for chewing gum & the band teacher took the gum out of my mouth & stuck it on my nose & made me sit in the corner for the whole hour with gum on my nose. I NEVER took gum to his class again. I figure just put a little dallop of their own poop from the wall they smeared it on, on their nose & make them sit in the corner in front of the kids in their class & they wont EVER smear it on the walls again. The entire class would never forget that day. ROFL!
Or make them sit in the bathroom for detention, right in front of the wall & stare at it for an hour before they have to clean it up, would stop that.

It shouldn't be too hard to figure out who is doing it if that teacher has to run to the lounge & your own child can't even use the bathroom at school.
I might expect that once from a 2nd or 3rd grader but I would be finding out who did it & the parents can come clean it up!!
I should have been a school Principal

I may not be totally anti vaccine but I am definately anti-poop on the walls in public.

[BKcrazy]

I have the flu again right now!!! I may have picked up a virus from one of my nephews over Tday.

[allavdj]

I can't help but think that last post was a paid post, advertising something.

p.s. I use lots of supplements and eat organic, so I'm not anti-natural medicine or anything.

[Perry_Mason]

Hey Jacques. Welcome to the BK forum. I'm new here too. I've been lurking around, reading up on what I need to do for my BK. Thank you Jacques for all that you posted.

Allavdj, is that very nice of you to not welcome Jacques to the forum and instead accuse him of being some kind of paid troll? So what if Jacques was being paid to post the information? It is still useful information. I actually took the time to read and view what Jacques posted, and I appreciate his efforts. In fact, I do not want to believe some of the information provided. It is scary to me. It frightens me.

God or Allah or Krishna or the Cookie Monster, or whomever, please help us all if these harmful chemicals are really in the vaccines and being given to kids. I'm not joking, as this is not a laughing matter. This is serious stuff, and that's why I believe some people are afraid of investigating for themselves, because it is just too scary. I also just watched Zeitgeist at
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...81422995115331 and that is a film that makes me question my religiosity, as well as the Federal Reserve System and 9/11. Now that's some scary stuff!

Allavdj, like Jacques, I am also not paid by anyone to make this post. However, can someone please direct me to how I can make money via posts on forums, that way I won't have to file bankruptcy.

[allavdj]

Zeitgeist is a fun little movie..err..documentary, just remember, as with any documentary or media, they have a specific agenda (beyond being informative).

Watch it with an open mind and let it prompt you to ask questions and do some research on your own and certainly don't take it as 100% truth.

As to the paid poster thing, run a search on google or yahoo for "paid forum posting" and you'll find a ton of places that pay to post of forums. You won't get rich at it, but if you are destined to sit at home all day and surf forums, it might be worth the effort to make a little cash on the side.

And finally, I simply made a statement based on the post, to me, it read like somebody trying to sell something, lol. I would feel the same way if one of my buddies went off on a tangent citing lots of studies, book, doctors with websites selling stuff, etc. Maybe I'm just suspicious.

No harm, no foul

[familyof7]

I believe that the vaccines only affect thopse who already have sensory issues for example autistic children are sensitive to touch sound many different things and most likely the things in the vaccines and there for they do get worse after the vaccines but I believe they would have already had "issues" I have 5 children 1 is autistic and 4 are not. They all had the same vaccines. This is the way one doctor explained it to me. And to me it makes sense. Because why dosent every child have it? But that is my opinion.

[Bobby'sGirl]

Another viewpoint to consider

Dr Andrew Weil blends the best of modern medicine with alternative therapies for an "integrative" approach and is NOT anti-immunizations.

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA400067

Research on the brain in the developing fetus and infant indicate there are abnormalities in the processing centers later linked to autism well before even the first round of immunizations.

http://pub.ucsf.edu/magazine/200412/autism.html

It could very well be paternal diet and maternal diet and lifestyle choices impact the zygote from earliest development. Not something it is comfortable to think about if you have a child suffering from developmental delays, birth defects, etc.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/73355

Some non-technical links for those of you looking for a balanced view of the controversy. I have nieces with Asperger's syndrome and have been following this for some years to give my kids advice and things to read as they start their own families.

[nazstar]

I admit that I didn't get a chance to read all the posts - swamped. So, I'm sorry if I am repetitive here...

I have a 7 month old and she got all her shots as scheduled. But there are several mothers in my online group that have decided to delay for various reasons. One mother had her first child vaccinated on schedule and she suffered brain damage from a reaction to the shot. I don't know all the particulars and I'm sure she's more educated on the topic than I am so I'm the last person who is going to argue with her decision to delay shots for the rest of her kids. However, in my experience, children have a higher risk of developing a disease that could have been prevented with a vaccine than a risk of autism or brain damage. I did my research before vaccinating my daughter and it didn't seem conclusive enough to sway me away from the medical norm. That said, she's my daughter and I have to make decisions for her well being to the best of my knowledge. I don't deny any parent that right. With more and more parents delaying vaccines, it makes me worry that she would be exposed to preventable diseases and I'd rather her protected.

I did hear an argument from one mother that really didn't make sense. She said that she would rather not risk vaccinations and since all the other kids are vaccinated, where would these diseases come from. Kinda like a herd immunity theory. But, in my humble opinion, that works if one or two children aren't protected. But what happens when that starts to become more popular?

[Perry_Mason]

Jacques was not a spammer!

I read the posts he made. He did not write that Dr. Andrew Weil was against getting vaccinated.

Did anyone actually read the posts, or are we going to engage in An ad hominem argument, just because we disagree with links provided?

I actually did watch the video "Mercury, Autism and the Global Vaccine Agenda" by
David Ayoub, MD, provided above. Thanks for posting it Jacques.

[WantToBeDebtFre]

I haven't been on here much in the last week (I've been working ton's of over time) but I wanted you all to know I received a post on my blog from Jacques. I guess I missed all that commotion.

Anyway, regarding vaccines. I'm still not really sure what to do. My little one is almost 9 months old so I'm going to have to decide soon. The one I'm worried about is the MMR. He's gotten all his other ones as scheduled. My 3 years old was fully vaccinated and has no problems but it's soooooo scary to know that there are suspicions about their safety.

[jennordhavn]

I haven't been on here much in the last week (I've been working ton's of over time) but I wanted you all to know I received a post on my blog from Jacques. I guess I missed all that commotion.

Anyway, regarding vaccines. I'm still not really sure what to do. My little one is almost 9 months old so I'm going to have to decide soon. The one I'm worried about is the MMR. He's gotten all his other ones as scheduled. My 3 years old was fully vaccinated and has no problems but it's soooooo scary to know that there are suspicions about their safety.

I have an 18 month old and the first MMR was scheduled at 15 months. I am delaying that series of shots only. She stays home with her Dad and isn't yet in daycare. This is really the only shot that worries me too. I am going to delay it at least until she starts preschool (she will probably be at least 2 1/2 by then), maybe longer.

[WantToBeDebtFre]

I have an 18 month old and the first MMR was scheduled at 15 months. I am delaying that series of shots only. She stays home with her Dad and isn't yet in daycare. This is really the only shot that worries me too. I am going to delay it at least until she starts preschool (she will probably be at least 2 1/2 by then), maybe longer.

I think that is what I'm going to do too.