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    Anyone else here anti-vaccine?

    They keep advertising all the flu shots around here, and I seriously get nauseated when I see these.

    It scares me how willing people are to put unnatural things into their bodies because they *might* catch something, when in reality, they are probably making the situation worse. (ie. helping to create superbugs)

    I am supposed to go and get all of my immunizations over the next couple of weeks updated before I start nursing school, but I am SERIOUSLY considering stating that my religious and personal beliefs go against it, even though I have been previously vaccinated.

    *sigh*
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    #2
    I.m Anti-Vacine

    I thought I was the only person in the world who felt like this. My law enforcment buddies can not wait to run out each and every year to get a flu shot when they start offering them. For the life of me, I can not understand it. I have talked to I,m blue in the face about putting that disease back into the body to prevent from getting the disease in the first place. Its almost as stupid as people who wrap up brown twiggs in a sheet of white paper and add fire to the end of it and smoke it.

    I have not had any colds or flu along with my daughter and granddaughters in many years and obviously we are doing something right. I always avoid those flu shots and maybe just maybe I am right and they might be wrong.

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      #3
      I have a friend who didn't vacinate her son for MMR. My son is 8 months old so he's looking at the MMR in a few months. I don't know what to do. I vacinated my first son. He's 3 and is fine. But my brother in law is 10 years old and autistic and my mother in law swears it's from the vacinations he received. She said he was fine until about 1 year.

      I don't have any of my family get the flu shots but when I was in the military they made us.
      Kari
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        #4
        Originally posted by WantToBeDebtFre View Post
        I have a friend who didn't vacinate her son for MMR. My son is 8 months old so he's looking at the MMR in a few months. I don't know what to do. I vacinated my first son. He's 3 and is fine. But my brother in law is 10 years old and autistic and my mother in law swears it's from the vacinations he received. She said he was fine until about 1 year.

        I don't have any of my family get the flu shots but when I was in the military they made us.

        I have been reading more and more about autism being linked to vaccines.

        It really makes you wonder, and it's kind of scary too.

        The fact that people will willingly go and have someone stick something in their bodies (or their children, just because it's required for school) that they aren't 100% sure of, scares me. Flu shots, tetanus, mmr, whatever. Scary, scary!
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          #5
          If you ever go thru a year we had 15 years or so ago, you might rethink vaccinines.

          We moved to a new State. Once school started, we literally could not put 3 weeks together where we were not sick. The whole family.

          Son even wound up with pneumonia. If it was going around school we got it. If kids of Hubby's coworkers got it, we got it. We were always in the doctor's office for this cold or that flu. Nasty bugs that left us with sinus infections, bronchitis, you name it.

          I thought at first it was us. But one day I ran into a lady in the waitng room at the doctor's office going thru the same thing. They too had moved in from out of State and were sick, sick, sick. Finally 1 day, I asked our doctor when it was all gonna end. He said it took about a year to adjust to a new "bug" gene pool. And we were probably about there.

          Due to Son's lung issues and asthma, and Mom being elderly, we couldn't afford to bring bugs into the home. That's when we started getting immunizations. It's worked ever since. No one gets severly sick. And when we do have a case, it's mild.

          I, for one, will take that shot any day. The disease has most definitely been worse than the shot in our experience.
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          I am not an attorney. My comments are based on personal experience and research. Always consult an attorney in your area to address concerns related to your particular situation.

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            #6
            I am on the fence sometimes

            I am very on the fence. I believe in the strength of our own immune systems, and am laughing at my kids right now with their new baby. They won't let anyone touch her without using germex first. DIL almost had a heart attack last week when I grabbed the baby. I had just washed my hands, as I was coming out of the kitchen, but still... I think Trinity will be healthier in the long run once she is exposed to family germs. But I think vaccines can be so helpful. Take the one for the bug that causes a lot of ear infections. I cannot remember the name of it right now, but it wasn't available when oldest DD was coming up. She had ear infection after ear infection until we had tubes and adenoidectomy at age 6. Youngest DD had the vaccine, is almost 5 and has had ONE ear infection in her life. Both DH and myself had a history of multiple ear infections as kids, so find it amazing that the youngest has been so lucky. I firmly attribute it to the vaccine

            I did not start DD's hep b vaccine until her first round of shots were due @ 2 mo. I argued w/ the nursery nurse that I was not at risk, therefore neither was she. I won that arguement, but caved in the long run, as it is next to impossible to get a child in public school here, much less daycare, without having their shots up to date. Since I had to work, I took the route of least resistance. Due to her asthma, I do get her a flue shot right now. I got the pediatric version the first year, which is Thimerosol free(that is the mercury preparation). In fact I always get hers at the pediatrician even though I have to pay more there. I take mine because I cannot take the time off to be sick. And since I work in the hospital, I am exposed to a lot of flu bugs, among other things.


            I think we really need to look at all the chemicals in our environment as a cause of autism. Flame retardant pjs for example. I have always figured if flame is near enough my child to ignite their sleeping clothes, it is probably already too late to save them. Look at all the chemicals we use around the house in our cleaning. That can't be good for their delicate systems. And the pesticides used to grow our foods. Combine that with the vaccines, and ...... it is very possibly the cause of the rise in autism.


            See what I meant about the fence. I think vaccines have a place in our life, but I also think we need to be exposed to germs to develop a healthy immune system. Very contradictory
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              #7
              Originally posted by arkienurse View Post
              I am very on the fence. I believe in the strength of our own immune systems, and am laughing at my kids right now with their new baby. They won't let anyone touch her without using germex first. DIL almost had a heart attack last week when I grabbed the baby. I had just washed my hands, as I was coming out of the kitchen,
              I had a reality check on that one real quick when son was little.

              Used to sanitize everything. Mop the kitchen floor with Chlorox daily.

              Gotta kill those bugs!!

              And then,............. I turn around,............ And there's son,......... Sitting on the floor,........... Chewing on a sandal.

              I gave up. I figured our kids would benefit from regular, daily living bugs too.

              Strengthens their immune systems.
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              Discharged - 12/2006
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              Closed - 04/2007

              I am not an attorney. My comments are based on personal experience and research. Always consult an attorney in your area to address concerns related to your particular situation.

              Another good thing about being poor is that when you are seventy your children will not have declared you legally insane in order to gain control of your estate. - Woody Allen...

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                #8
                These "concerns" over vaccines are mostly conspiracy theory fear mongering, nothing more. Don't buy it, vaccines are one of proably the top 20 scientific advances in history and saved more lives and prevented more disease and sufferring next to the invention of antibiotics.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by tinroofrusted View Post
                  They keep advertising all the flu shots around here, and I seriously get nauseated when I see these.

                  It scares me how willing people are to put unnatural things into their bodies because they *might* catch something, when in reality, they are probably making the situation worse. (ie. helping to create superbugs)

                  I am supposed to go and get all of my immunizations over the next couple of weeks updated before I start nursing school, but I am SERIOUSLY considering stating that my religious and personal beliefs go against it, even though I have been previously vaccinated.

                  *sigh*
                  I do not trust vaccines only because I think they can too easily be contaminated. The IDEA of vaccines is great, and SOME DO save lives, no doubt. They have been a great boon to mankind since their inception...

                  BUT, nowadays, they are too prevalent and flu vaccines are just an accident waiting to happen (contamination). We know that in the past our government has experimented with vaccines, introducing things like venereal diseases into people (this is admitted and proven). So, do you think this government we have now would not do similar things?

                  Let's say I am CAUTIOUS about vaccines! I do not run out and get flu vaccines. But I do get things like hepatitus vaccines and dyptheria etc. for traveling, due to the places I tend to travel on an annual basis.
                  <<I am NOT an attorney, my comments are anecdotal only. Contact an attorney for advice>>
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                    #10
                    I have two sons who are severely autistic but they showed signs well before the MMR shot so I seriously doubt that had anything to do with it. I think it's largely genetic with an environmental trigger. But that trigger seems to be different for just about everyone who has it.

                    Anyway, I have no problems with the vaccines they have out today. I don't do the flu one since no one in our family would be considered high risk for complications from the flu. I'm glad it exists though since my 84 year old grandmother gets terribly sick every year and the flu shot has really helped her.
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                      #11
                      I'm too scared to get a vaccine for the flu. I'm scared of needles. Then I think about the fact I could get sick from the vaccine. So, rather chance getting sick the old fashioned way. Already had the flu, so, pointless.
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                        #12
                        And speaking of the flu.... Looks like Tamiflu is under scrutiny as well.





                        I'm with the tinfoil hatters on these matters - and I am a sensible person.

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                          #13
                          Do we really want to go back to the days when children were routinely crippled and killed by diseases like polio, blind from measles, etc??? I have an aunt with severe heart problems from scarlet fever she had as a baby, and I say Thank God we don't have these issues to deal with today. The only reason vaccines are linked to autism is because because autism signs begin about the same time that children are routinely immunized, study after study after study has been conducted trying to link the two, and every single time the science shows that there is no link between them. But I guess I should qualify this all by saying that I'm a chemist, so a strong believer in better living through science.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by HHM View Post
                            These "concerns" over vaccines are mostly conspiracy theory fear mongering, nothing more. Don't buy it, vaccines are one of proably the top 20 scientific advances in history and saved more lives and prevented more disease and sufferring next to the invention of antibiotics.
                            Amen
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by woeisme View Post
                              Do we really want to go back to the days when children were routinely crippled and killed by diseases like polio, blind from measles, etc??? I have an aunt with severe heart problems from scarlet fever she had as a baby, and I say Thank God we don't have these issues to deal with today. The only reason vaccines are linked to autism is because because autism signs begin about the same time that children are routinely immunized, study after study after study has been conducted trying to link the two, and every single time the science shows that there is no link between them. But I guess I should qualify this all by saying that I'm a chemist, so a strong believer in better living through science.

                              Biologist here. So I agree. I have no interest in going back in time and watching millions die from diseases we can prevent.
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