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    US debt ceiling talks deadlocked as Moody's warns on AAA rating

    July 14, 2011

    America's debt crisis reached a critical stage on Thursday as lawmakers remained deadlocked over whether to raise the US debt ceiling, and Moody's threatened to downgrade the country's credit rating.

    The dollar lost ground against most major currencies after Moody's and Chinese ratings agency Dagong both put the US on negative watch. Reports, later denied, that President Obama had walked out of debt negotiations with top Republicans added to the drama.

    World stock markets suffered another bout of heavy losses when trading began on Thursday, with the FTSE 100 falling 57 points within the opening minutes to 5879. European government bonds were also under pressure after an auction of Italian long-term bonds saw buyers demand much higher interest rates - a sign of the tensions in Europe's own debt crisis.

    City experts warned that the lack of progress in Washington in recent days was fanning fears that the world's biggest economy might default on some of its debts. Michael Hewson of CMC Markets called the threat of a Moody's downgrade a "cruise missile across the bows of US politicians".

    "One thing is certain: it won't take long for Fitch and S&P to follow suit if the politicians don't come to their senses," Hewson added.

    Moody's said on Wednesday night that there was a greater risk that the US government would not agree to increase its debt ceiling above the legal limit of $14.3 trillion (£8.86tn), hit in May. Dagong swiftly followed suit, saying slow economic growth and rising debts meant the federal government's ability to repay its debts was deteriorating.

    Despite mounting concern in the financial markets, America's political leaders remain some distance apart over the issue of the debt ceiling. Little progress appeared to be made on Wednesday. Republican House majority leader Eric Cantor claimed that Obama had shoved back the table and walked out of White House talks, after Cantor refused to discuss the president's proposal to raise taxes on wealthier Americans.

    "The president told me, 'Eric, don't call my bluff. I'm going to take this to the American people,'" Cantor said after the meeting.

    Democrats, though, disputed whether Obama had quit the meeting prematurely.

    "Left abruptly is perfectly fair," one official told the LA Times. "But the meeting was over – in no sense did he walk out on it."

    Officials have warned that, as things stand, America will run out of money to pay its bills on 2 August. Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke said on Wednesday that without agreement, the US would continue to service its debts and stop benefits like Social Security payments instead.

    JP Morgan chief executive Jamie Dimon said it was "imperative" that the US debt ceiling was raised, and that the US showed fiscal discipline.


    Republicans are demanding hefty spending cuts, worth about $2.4tn over the next 10 years, in return for voting to raise the debt ceiling. Obama is pushing for a $4tn deficit reduction plan over the same period, with a hefty slice of increased tax revenue.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...wngrade-threat
    (
    From the Guardian (UK) - the comments below the article - if you use the link, are well worth reading as well.)
    Last edited by IamOld; 07-14-2011, 10:10 AM.

    #2
    whoppppppppeeeee!!!!!

    great article!!!!
    8/4/2008 MAKE SURE AND VISIT Tobee's Blogs! http://www.bkforum.com/blog.php?32727-tobee43 and all are welcome to bk forum's Florida State Questions and Answers on BK http://www.bkforum.com/group.php?groupid=9

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      #3
      [QUOTE=IamOld;530966]July 14, 2011





      Officials have warned that, as things stand, America will run out of money to pay its bills on 2 August. Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke said on Wednesday that without agreement, the US would continue to service its debts and stop benefits like Social Security payments instead.


      Should this disaster happen you will see Greece or the middle east riots on a much larger scale here.

      Just imagine we "service our debts" and the old folks go hungry from this.

      Or if they pay out SS checks and default on the debt you will see chaos in the financial markets from all of the credit default swaps like what brought down AIG. Investors are actually placing bets on a default and will profit big from it.

      Also investors will be forced to dump US debt once it loses it's AAA credit rating. Interest rates will go through the roof and the govt will default anyway since we cannot afford the interest.

      Brace yourselves people! Whether August 2nd or another time the storm is a coming.
      The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of Government

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        #4
        Brace yourselves is right!

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          #5
          i feel like we are being SO BLACKMAILED and being held hostage by the this government.

          when people voted the last time they wanted changed...true...but the politicans never mentioned they wanted to include the elimination and reform of certain programs. i do and did want government reform in spending and tax cuts, but just don't get it.

          even, when warren buffet said...i'm paying 16% tax rate...that's less than the middle income family. buffet also said, TAX the RICH...not cut out care to elderly and our young poor.
          8/4/2008 MAKE SURE AND VISIT Tobee's Blogs! http://www.bkforum.com/blog.php?32727-tobee43 and all are welcome to bk forum's Florida State Questions and Answers on BK http://www.bkforum.com/group.php?groupid=9

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            #6
            Because, Tobee, those who are running the gov't are NOT "we the people" but "we the banksters."

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              #7
              Not to play devils advocate, but as I always say it's not a solvable problem. I would have a great deal of respect for Obama and the congressional leaders if they all held a news conference explaining to the American people just where we are.

              Social Security, Medicare and Medicade which help the neediest amongst us is the real problem and no one anywhere has what it takes to do anything about them.

              You can cut all other programs and tax everyone 100 percent and it won't cover the entitlement bills.

              Sadly we have to cut the above entitlements in order to balance the budget as well as raise taxes.

              What I blame about the bankster bailouts is they ruined any chance we had. After all of their bailouts and bonus's just how can the average American now be expected to pay more in taxes and watch their parents have even less benefits?

              Before the 2008 meltdown I thought one day there would be some hope for us in resolving this. After 2008 it became hopeless and there will be a crisis like it or not sorry to say.
              The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of Government

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