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    In bankruptcy, debtors hide assets and pay the price

    February 16, 2011

    When Gary K. Parker of Clearwater declared bankruptcy a few years back, he listed his seemingly meager assets. A black couch valued at $100. A mirror, $10. A broken clock, $20. In all, a paltry $990 worth of stuff.

    Except it wasn't quite all.

    What Parker didn't disclose on his bankruptcy petition was an account with $35,580. In September he pleaded guilty to knowingly making false statements, a felony that could send him to federal prison for five years when he is sentenced in April.

    Bankruptcy judges hope the case sends a strong signal to others who try to hide assets.

    "There's no way to keep people honest, absent this kind of message or deterrent,'' says Judge Catherine Peek McEwen of the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Tampa. "The system can't afford to send a private investigator out to dig up whether someone is telling the truth.''

    Compared with other federal crimes like terrorism, kidnapping and counterfeiting, bankruptcy-related crimes have long ranked low on prosecutors' priority lists. As of early last year, criminal charges had been filed in just 24 of the 1,611 cases referred for prosecution nationwide in 2009.

    But as the sputtering economy drove a record number of Tampa Bay residents into bankruptcy in 2010, many of them undoubtedly tried to hang on to more assets than they were legally entitled to.

    "They all say it's a cubic zirconia, they never say it's a diamond,'' notes Traci K. Stevenson, a Chapter 7 bankruptcy trustee in Pinellas County. "Or I'll say, 'Do you have any diamonds?' and they'll say, 'Yeah, but they're old.' "

    Chapter 7 trustees are the court-appointed officials who administer bankruptcy estates, liquidate assets and distribute the proceeds among creditors.

    Debtors must meet with a trustee, who questions them under oath about their income and assets.

    Are most debtors completely forthcoming?

    "No,'' Stevenson says.

    After 19 years she can spot the tell-tale signs. A nervous tic of the eye. A slight hesitancy in answering. Or blubbering on about the circumstances that drove them to bankruptcy.

    "I don't want to know that you lost your job and that's why you filed,'' Stevenson says. "I want to know about your assets.''

    In Florida, debtors who keep their homes can retain just $1,000 worth of clothing, furniture and other personal property. Those giving up their homes can keep an additional $4,000 of personal property.

    Either way that's not a lot. So debtors tend to understate the value of their property, which they list in the bankruptcy petition.

    "I look at the value of the house,'' Stevenson says, ''and the next thing I want to know is the square footage. If you say you have $375 of furniture in a 3,000 square foot house I'm going to send out an appraiser.''

    Trustees also carefully examine the list of creditors: If a debtor owes $10,000 to a high-end furniture store like Robb & Stucky, it's a good bet the Italian leather couch is worth more than $75.

    Stevenson remembers one couple who lived in a waterfront home on Treasure Island. But because they planned to give up the house, she didn't press them too hard about the value of their personal property.

    "The next day in the St. Pete Times, there they were in the food section because they had a personal chef. You could see the granite countertops. I said, 'Okay, let's send out an appraiser and re-evaluate everything.' ''

    Debtors trying to conceal assets are sometimes exposed by what bankruptcy officials call the "ex factor" — ex-spouses or ex-employees.

    Consider the debtor who failed to disclose several pieces of sports memorabilia, including a jersey signed by former Tampa Bay Buccaneer Mike Alstott and worth $300 or so.

    "The trustee eventually learned about it because a disgruntled former employee came forward with information that the items were in the person's office, not at his home,'' says McEwen, the judge.

    "He was not charged with a crime but he did lose his discharge,'' meaning he was not relieved of his debts.

    In another case, a woman blew the whistle when she learned that her ex-husband still had the $400,000 boat that her parents had helped pay for.

    She told Stevenson, who found the boat (with him living on it) and sold it.

    Trustees aren't required to advertise assets they plan to sell although they do put sale notices in the public court file. Stevenson typically sells through auction houses, on Craigslist or on websites like bkassets.com.

    Among the items recently featured on the site: a men's 18-karat gold Rolex watch, with a starting bid of $850.

    Although relatively few people have been charged with bankruptcy-related crimes, that could change as the result of increased cooperation among prosecutors, the FBI, Secret Service and other federal agencies.

    Robert O'Neill, the new U.S. attorney for Florida's Middle District, "has made white collar crime his top priority and bankruptcy offenses are part of our criminal effort,'' says Assistant U.S. Attorney Laurel Moore Lee. "We really want people who are availing themselves of the bankruptcy courts to be aware those are very serious proceedings and that the consequences of committing a fraud on the court are very significant.''

    Sometimes, though, being honest with the bankruptcy court can have consequences, too.

    In 2006, authorities say, Richard Likane of Tampa got a mortgage after telling the lender he was making $12,324 a month as manager of an Italian restaurant.

    But tax returns submitted in his 2008 bankruptcy case correctly stated that the only income he had in 2006 was $44.

    After the FBI investigated those and other discrepancies between mortgage applications and Likane's bankruptcy filing, he was indicted last year on a charge of mail fraud affecting a financial institution — and faces up to 30 years in prison.

    News in the Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater area, including breaking news, public safety, crime, health, hurricanes and weather, politics, the environment and more from the staff of the Tampa Bay Times.
    Last edited by AngelinaCat; 02-15-2011, 05:26 PM. Reason: To bring in line with formatting rules for this board.

    #2
    I guess this answers that question we've all had about why there are so many trustee ordered appraisals in the Tampa area.
    Filed pro se, made it through the 341, discharged, Closed!!!

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      #3
      Wow - I just have a hard time believing these people! I am so happy that I have the chance to get rid of my debt that I am being a little over the top, but would rather do that and have my lawyer tell me, they don't need that, than to take any chance. As a matter of fact, today while I was doing laundry I realized there are things in the basement that I haven't used in so long that I forgot to put them on my asset list. Well, I revised that baby real quick. Some things I'm not even sure work anymore, but I am including everything and will let my lawyer decide if I am being over zealous. Better safe than sorry.

      People who cheat make it so much harder for the rest of us. I hope they throw the book at that joker and maybe others who think of doing it will think twice.

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        #4
        I can't agree more -- it is always the bad eggs that make it harder for the "rest" of us. Ugh - Can tell you from personal experience with this trustee - she is very cool though if your gut honest and are not trying to hide anything. She focuses right in on where there might be assets -- she spotted one area immediately with us and started asking questions - once answered she was fine. I was very impressed with her - very business like and professional but also saw a slight hint of a real person in there too.

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          #5
          Amazing how some people are so short-sighted. I got rid of $3million + in debt and don't owe a dime because of bk. To try to hide a few assets vs getting rid of that much debt is just plain stupid......
          All information contained in this post is for informational and amusement purposes only.
          Bankruptcy is a process, not an event.......

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            #6
            wow....you know this is interesting for a few reasons....

            i think the MAIN reason we are seeing something like this published is as a deterrent since the new act and laws imposed in 2005 do not seemingly appear to discourage people from filing bk any longer...i mean i don't know about you...but the very first time i considered filing...i was actually discouraged by the atty to do so...he tried to have me do another refi on our already over inflated home...

            i would like to believe, and perhaps i'm still attempting to maintain some faith in human beings...but i personally, and idealistically view people as good, decent.... truthful and honest; unless proven differently...almost like innocent until proven guilty...i would like to believe most people are honest by nature...i know it's not true so...so much for idealization.

            there have always been crooks out there and will continue to be so...but what kills me is...this story points out some really terrible dishonest people...however, it does not point out how many others that the trustees sent out to their mobile homes looking for hidden pots and pans...and that's the message i think this is all about.

            as stated they don't have time to investigate every case before them. so when a trustee uses their "instincts" to determine such matters ...i know experience has most likely helped to better recognize cheaters but not everyone cheats..and i have heard more stories about poor people going through these levels of scrutiny than i have rich people with their own cooks.

            of course honest to us was the keep to a success bk...we wanted to be able to sleep for the rest of our lives...and not have to feel like we had to look over our shoulders...i always say the truth is much easier to remember than a lie. we hid nothing...and had some explaining to do....and paper work to back it up....i wanted no stone unturned personally to come back and get bit.

            interesting stuff! but scary for those newly filing!
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              #7
              Interesting article, makes me even more nervous about finding the value of my household items. I've been using the Salvation Army list, Craigslist, and eBay to figure the value of a lot of things. What's sad to me is after 20 years as a working adult, I have nothing but junk to show for it. 1800 sq ft house, $4400 worth of possessions.

              The mention of the ex ruining a person made me raise an eyebrow though. How do they find out about a BK? My ex is volatile and a liar, and I shudder at the thought of him being within 50 yards of me much less stepping foot in a hearing.
              Filed Chapter 7 on 2/22/11, 341 meeting held 3/30/11, relief of stay on foreclosure 4/12/11, relief of stay on auto 5/17/11, Discharge on 6/6/11!

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                #8
                When my ex was going through it - many years ago, a fly by night loan company that my ex had convinced me to sign my car as collateral (yes, I was pretty stupid in those days) called me after the divorce and said I then had to pay tht loan back since he was in bankruptcy. I told them they had the chance of taking the car and they told me he - the ex- had told them it was worthless. I told them they better talk to the bank that gave me the original loan for it and see what they apparaised it at. That was the last call I ever received, but that is how I found out he was going through bk.

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                  #9
                  CG -- about the only thing you can do is be totally honest. Most ex's find out somehow. Remember though he may lie and stuff but it has to be proven -- if everything is on the up and up then I would sleep like a baby and not worry about some flaming %^&* to lie about. Now it WOULD complicate things a bit but that's ok too.

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                    #10
                    The household items and furniture values are a bit tricky. It's true some debtors have paid a lot for nice furniture, but in bankruptcy most of this stuff is valued at what a trustee can liquidate it for.

                    If the trustee asked everyone to surrender their nice furniture they will be stuck trying to sell it and will actually have to spend a lot of time doing so.
                    The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of Government

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                      #11
                      People find out in the newspaper too. I'm guessing that's where the disgruntled former employee in the article got his tip-off.
                      There are two secrets for success in life:
                      1.) Never tell everything you know.

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                        #12
                        Couple months back there was a story in the news here about a guy that was hiding $350K in cash!! He had gotten a home equity loan for that amount, hidden it away, and then declared bankruptcy a few months later. He deposited the money in $9900 increments to avoid reporting--although just because $10K is mandatory reporting, seems like a bank could report anything it deemed suspicious. Some thirty odd deposit of $9900 seems more than just a wee bit odd.

                        While I think fraudsters deserve to be punished, it is crazy how bankruptcy, which is a federal process, varies so much from state to state. The exemptions in Texas, for example, are crazy high.

                        Here's the story if you want a laugh:
                        Filed Ch 7 pro se Oct 2010 . Filed student loan AP pro se Feb 2011 . Discharged Feb 2011 . AP trial 1/10/2012 . $28K in student loans dismissed Jan 2012 . ECMC appealed. Appeal hearing 7/2012. Original judgment upheld 9/2012.

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                          #13
                          What a dummy! Too funny. How does a moron like that get so much money in the first place?
                          There are two secrets for success in life:
                          1.) Never tell everything you know.

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                            #14
                            IF all the mistakes we made due to shear ignorance, and that ignorance was obvious and followed by a complaint in the Court to fire our lawyer, we would have been nailed. We were not as our mistakes were so obvious (preferential payments, purchasing non exempt stuff back and clerical errors not caught my stupid lawyer) we could have been dismissed in spades. We paid for our mistakes, went to 2004 investigation and took years to do what should have taken three months of we did not make mistakes.

                            This is why we stay on here. What saved us was total honesty. I am sure I missed some personal items, but listed more valuable stuff, but I did pay it back and was open to inspection which was never done. They saw our dismay and noted our AP and we were sued in AP for 188 million dollars for an unfinished Civil suit. A ridiculous amount and it never went to trial as it was obvious we were being harassed by the guy who caused us bk. I don't want others to be as uninformed as we were. That is why TOTAL honesty will get you buy and cover many "sins". 'Hub
                            If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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                              #15
                              Wow ACH ... Unreal experience!

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