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    Big Banks Accused of Short Sale Fraud

    January 15, 2010

    Just as regulators, lawmakers and all forms of financial oversight boards are talking about new regulations to guard against mortgage fraud and another mortgage meltdown, there appears to be yet a new mortgage fraud out there today, allegedly perpetuated by agents of, yes, the big banks.

    I was first alerted to this by Jeremy Brandt, the CEO of several companies that bring short sale agents, investors and sellers together.

    His companies include 1800CashOffer, HomeFlux.com and FastHomeOffer.com. Brandt has a huge network of short sale real estate agents, and over the past several months he's been receiving all kinds of questions and complaints about trouble with second lien holders.

    As we all know, during the housing boom, millions of Americans pulled cash out of their homes in the form of home equity loans and lines of credit. They also used "piggy back" loans in order to get even lower interest rates on their primary mortgages. Now, many of the borrowers in trouble, and many who are so far underwater on their loans that they don't qualify for any refi or modification, are choosing short sales as a way out. (Short sales are when the lender allows the home to be sold for less than the value of the loan). About 12 percent of all home sales by the end of 2009 were short sales, according to the National Association of Realtors.

    In order for a short sale with two loans to happen, the second lien holder has to drop the lien.

    If they don't, and there's no short sale, the home goes to foreclosure and the first lien holder gets the house because second liens are subordinated debt to the primary loan.

    In short, the second lien holder gets nothing. In order to get the second lien holder to drop the lien, the first lien holder generally negotiates some partial payment to the second lien holder. The second lien holder doesn't have to agree, but more and more are doing so.

    That's all legal.

    But here's what's not legal and what's apparently happening quite often recently. Since many second lien holders are getting very little, they are now allegedly requesting money on the side from either real estate agents or the buyers in the short sale. When I say "on the side," I mean in cash, off the HUD settlement statements, so the first lien holder doesn't see it.

    "They are pretty clear and pretty upfront about the fact that if the first lender knows they are getting paid, the first lender will kill the short sale," says Brandt. "So these second lenders are asking for the payments off the closing documents, off the HUD statement, usually in a cashiers check prior to closing. Once they receive that payment, they will allow the short sale to go through, which according to RESPA laws and the lawyers that we have spoken to on the topic is not legal."

    (RESPA is the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act, the 2008 law requiring that consumers receive disclosures at various times in the transaction. It outlaws kickbacks that increase the cost of settlement services. RESPA is a HUD consumer protection statute designed to help homebuyers be better shoppers in the home buying process, and is enforced by HUD. Read more about it here.).

    I told RESPA specialist Brian Sullivan over at HUD about all this and he replied, "That's a red flag!"

    Clearly illegal.

    Brandt told me he's heard from at least 200 agents that they've had these requests made by representatives of Citi Mortgage , JP Morgan Chase , Bank of America and other large banks.

    Most agents wouldn't go on the record with me, for fear of retribution by the banks with whom they have to work every day. But one agent, Kayte Gentry, of Keller Williams Integrity First Realty, was brave enough to blow the whistle.

    "I think it's wrong, and I think somebody needs to hold them accountable, and every time I lose a house in foreclosure because of this, it hurts my client," says Gentry matter-of-factly. "Aside from being illegal and a violation of RESPA, it's immoral and truly it's just sad for the client that it's hurting."

    Gentry says she has had the requests made three times and claims she lost one sale because of it.

    "The big banks that have recently made this request, specifically payments outside of the closing statement have been Citi Mortgage and JP Morgan Chase."

    JP Morgan Chase simply answered, "No Comment," when I relayed the charge to their media representative.

    Bank of America denied the practice to CNBC in a written statement:
    "Bank of America enforces a policy that all disbursements are documented on the settlement statement for short sales. When we are servicing a first mortgage with a second lien held by another investor, if the second lien holder asks for off-HUD payments, we will not approve the transaction (if we have knowledge of it). It is also against Bank of America’s policy to accept off-HUD payments on its second liens."

    Citi 's reply was a bit more complicated:
    “We work very hard to help distressed homeowners find solutions for their financial challenges. In our attempt to amicably resolve the debt, we will generally negotiate a reduced settlement with the homeowner in order to release a second lien. Unlike some lenders who refuse to reduce the payoffs on second liens, we choose to reduce the payoff amounts in some situations to assist the borrower. We do not provide instructions to settlement agents on how to fill out the settlement statement or any other closing documents, and we certainly do not require settlement agents or any other parties to violate applicable laws."

    "When we confront the lenders and tell them that this request is illegal and a violation of RESPA, they tell us it's been cleared through legal and they don't care. Do it anyway," charges Gentry.

    I personally heard a recording of a phone conversation between a short sale real estate agent and a second lien lender, during which the second lien lender clearly asked for cash outside of the settlement and threatened to kill the deal without it.

    The real estate agent was rightly concerned and reluctant (the recording was given to me by Brandt who got it from the agent. The agent would provide no information on the lender, for fear of retribution):

    AGENT: Well yes, I don’t want to lose my license, go to jail, I mean, I have to sign…

    LENDER: You're not going to lose your license - we have plenty of realtors who do this, who actually understand how this whole process goes - and they realize that OK, if I want to get this done, this will take place."

    I contacted the Treasury Department, HUD, FINCEN (Financial Crimes Enforcement Network) and the Federal Trade Commission, and none of their representatives could tell me of any active investigation into this. The folks at HUD said they'd be very interested to see my story.

    Source: cnbc.com
    Diana Olick, CNBC Real Estate Reporter
    Last edited by Flamingo; 01-15-2010, 09:44 PM. Reason: To conform with forum posting rules - OP PLEASE TAKE NOTE
    filed chapter 13..confirmed...converted to chapter 7...DISCHARGED!

    #2
    These "Big Boys" will find anyway to make a buck, won't they? This kinda stuff just sickens me.

    Nice find......good article.
    Bankruptcy History:
    Chapter 7 filed - 10/12/2005 - Asset
    Discharged - 02/16/2006
    Case Closed - 11/08/2007

    A banker is a fellow who lends you his umbrella when the sun is shining and wants it back the minute it begins to rain ~ Mark Twain

    All suggestions are based on personal experience and research and SHOULD NOT be construed as legal advice as I am NOT an attorney. Always consult with competent counsel in your area with regards to your particular situation.

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      #3
      Don't worry. With Barney Frank in charge, everything is going to work out fine.

      Good article!
      All information contained in this post is for informational and amusement purposes only.
      Bankruptcy is a process, not an event.......

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        #4
        Yes, anyway to make a buck!
        Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
        Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
        Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

        Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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          #5
          I think when we asked WF for a short sale they looked at my credit history, saw the score was close to 800. If they looked back in their records they would see I have borrowed from them before, never late, never bounced checks.. etc. So, they thought I would never default on them and they simply lost the paperwork on the short sale 3 times, then they promptly lost my realtors 3 times, and the buy walked. We simply could not sell the place because of that, realtors want nothing to do with that sort of listing. So, we tried a DIL, which again the lost our paperwork, then we were in review, then lost again and so on. I think they thought we would pay, maybe hubby would get a job, and we would pay. In the end they waited long enough to have the home lose more value and so when we had to go BK they really lost out, of course so did we as we ended up BK and stressed to the point where hubby got too sick to work for a while full time. Banks either don't think at all, or don't think clearly... I am not sure which one.

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            #6
            I had that happen (I'm a Realtor). The 2nd was HSBC and they asked for $10k off the HUD. Naturally we did not agree - I'm not going to lose my license because some negotiator asks me to do something illegal. The loss mitigation dept doesn't care if the Realtor loses their license. They are reading a script. They have limited authority and most have 'power complex'. This does not happen often, but it does happen.

            momisery, I have to tell you that we go through that process each time we negotiate a short sale. It is SOP for the bank to lose the package. In fact, I believe that they do this to delay the process or to make you quit just like you did. My personal record for a bank losing the package is 12 times in a row. They lost it via fax, via fedex, via email. BUT, they acknowleged receipt of the 13th package! The problem was, by the time they approved that particular deal, 6 months down the road, the buyer walked because they could get a better deal elsewhere. BTW, I have an attorney that I work with that actually does the communication with the loss mit dept and the closing. It is not only more efficient, but the loss mit dept is less likely to ask for off HUD payments or other illegal things.
            Filed CH 7 9/30/2008
            Discharged Jan 5, 2009! Closed Jan 18, 2009

            I am not an attorney. None of my advice is legal advice in any way..

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              #7
              Money exchanging outside of a HUD for a real estate purchase is one of the worst types of mortgage fraud. Unbelievable.
              Once you lose everything you're free to do anything.
              Filed 10/06/2009
              341 11/12/2009
              Discharged 1/15/2010

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