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    Tables turned in collection of a debt

    November 29, 2009

    The phone rang. A woman from a law firm representing a collection agency wanted to know if Mark Hoyte was Mark Hoyte, and he said he was. They were calling to collect $919 on a Sears-Citi card.

    Mr. Hoyte said he never had that credit card.

    Then the woman wanted to know if his Social Security number ended in 92, and Mr. Hoyte said no, it ended in 33.

    “She says to me, ‘Your date of birth is in 1972,’ ” Mr. Hoyte, 46, recalled in an interview.

    Clearly, they had the wrong Mark Hoyte. But that did not stop the lawyers at Pressler & Pressler from suing him. They swore out a complaint and sent a summons to Mr. Hoyte, ordering him to be in court last Monday.

    Then things took a rare turn.

    Every day of the year, 1,000 cases on average are added to the civil court dockets in New York City over credit card debt — a high-volume, low-accuracy moment of reckoning. The suits are usually brought by collection companies that purchase the debt for pennies on the dollar from card issuers and then work with a cadre of law firms that specialize in collection work.

    Conducting a digital dragnet, they troll through commercial databases searching for debtors. Because of the vast sloppiness and fraud involved, Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo has shut down two of the collection firms and is suing 35 law firms tied to the business.

    A person who blows off a civil court summons — even if wrongly identified — faces a default judgment and frozen bank accounts. But to date, there have been few penalties against collectors for dragging the wrong people into court.

    Until Mr. Hoyte turned up last week in Brooklyn.

    After trying to settle the case in the hallway — the 11th floor of 141 Livingston Street is an open bazaar of haggling — the collections lawyer realized he had the wrong man. He got Mr. Hoyte to sign an agreement that would end the case against him, but not against the Mark Hoyte who actually owed the $919.

    In front of the judge, the lawyer, T. Andy Wang, announced that the parties had reached a stipulation dismissing this Mr. Hoyte from the suit.

    Not so fast, said the judge, Noach Dear.

    “Why didn’t you check these things out before you take out a summons and a complaint?” Judge Dear asked. “Why don’t you check out who you’re going after?”

    Mr. Wang said that Pressler & Pressler used an online database called AnyWho to hunt for debtors.

    “So you just shoot in the dark against names; if there’s 16 Mark Hoytes, you go after without exactly knowing who, what, when and where?” Judge Dear asked.

    Mr. Wang replied, “That’s why the plaintiff is making an application to discontinue.”

    The judge turned to Mr. Hoyte, who works as a building superintendent, and asked him how much a day of lost pay would cost. Mr. Hoyte said $115.

    “Do you think that’s fair?” Judge Dear asked Mr. Wang. “That he should lose a day’s pay?”

    “My personal opinion,” Mr. Wang said, “would not be relevant to the application being sought.”

    The judge said he was prepared to dismiss the case and wanted Mr. Hoyte compensated for lost wages.

    “Your honor,” Mr. Wang said, “I’m personally not willing to compensate him.”

    No, the judge said; he meant that the law firm, Pressler & Pressler — one of the biggest in the collection industry — should pay the $115. He would hold a sanctions hearing, a formal process of penalizing the law firm for suing the wrong man.

    Under questioning by the judge, Mr. Hoyte recounted being called about the debt, providing his Social Security number and date of birth, and being summoned to court anyhow.

    The collections lawyer then began to interrogate Mr. Hoyte.

    “You claim you told Pressler & Pressler it wasn’t you,” Mr. Wang said to Mr. Hoyte. “Did you send them proof, as in a copy of your Social Security number with only the last four digits visible?”

    “No,” Mr. Hoyte said. “They didn’t ask for it.”

    “But you didn’t send any written proof of the claim that it was not you?” Mr. Wang said.

    “I told them on the phone it’s not me,” Mr. Hoyte said.

    Mr. Wang appeared outraged.

    “So without any written proof that it’s not you, you would expect someone just, you know, to go on say-so?” he demanded. “Is that correct?”

    Alice had reached Wonderland: The lawyer who had sued the wrong man was blaming the wrong man for getting sued.

    Judge Dear cut off the questioning. He told Mr. Wang and Mr. Hoyte to come back to court in January.

    “If, somehow, counsel, you decide that you’re going to compensate him for his time off,” Judge Dear said, “I will reconsider sanctions.”

    Source:
    New York Times
    Last edited by Flamingo; 11-29-2009, 03:51 PM. Reason: To conform with forum posting rules - OP PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF FORMAT
    filed ch7 May 09
    341 june 09
    discharged, closed Aug 09

    #2
    It's about time.
    Filed Chapter 7 August 18,2009
    341 scheduled for Oct 7, 2009--DONE!
    Report of No Distribution Oct 8, 2009
    Discharged & Closed Dec. 14, 2009

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      #3
      Wow- he should be awarded much more than $119! They need stiff penalties to prevent this from happening again!
      Once you lose everything you're free to do anything.
      Filed 10/06/2009
      341 11/12/2009
      Discharged 1/15/2010

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        #4
        I suspect if the firm doesn't voluntarily pay Mr. Hoyte his day's wages, the judge will impose a much larger sanction on them.

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          #5
          This is the type of case that screams out for sanctions. They didn't do their basic due diligence, hounded this guy and dragged him into court. The burden is squarely on the plaintiff to ensure that they:

          A) Have a case,
          B) They can prove their case,
          C) They file suit against the correct person.

          The judge needs to make an example of this firm. This case would have stopped in its tracks against this guy had they did some basic investigation when he told them that he was not that guy, he had a different SS# and DOB and then they could focus on finding the correct person.

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            #6
            Originally posted by walkthaplank View Post
            This is the type of case that screams out for sanctions. They didn't do their basic due diligence, hounded this guy and dragged him into court.

            The judge needs to make an example of this firm.
            Unfortunately, in State Court the Judge has little leverage to issue substantial sanctions. There is no "Rule11" requirement and sanctions as there is in Federal Court. And he is probably in the Small Claims section to boot.

            Note that if this were in the USBC, the tactic is for the debtor to file an adversary proceeding, and then after trial the Judge can issue a Finding of fact that the lender/plaintiff respondent has engaged in misconduct, and then the Judge/Court can hit them with major sanctions, upon Motion for Sanctions by the debtor, of six figures, and it will not be disturbed on appeal. If the Judge does it on his own initiative it runs the risk of getting set aside within the Appellate Panel. For case law, review In Re Nosek, Bk. Court 1st District, Mass. (Rosenker, J.)

            Within the poster's state court action, the poster can now go sue the plaintiff for both unfair trade practices, unfair debt collections practices, and tort claims for wrongful litigation. So: Just File Suit!
            Last edited by JustFileSuit; 12-16-2009, 02:00 PM. Reason: typo corrections

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              #7
              i think in most, if not all, state courts they have rules of court which include a version of rule 11.
              filed ch7 May 09
              341 june 09
              discharged, closed Aug 09

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                #8
                Originally posted by music12 View Post
                i think in most, if not all, state courts they have rules of court which include a version of rule 11.
                What the State Courts have is a generic requirement that the "signer" of any Pleading has read the Pleading and, by his signature, avers that the Pleading is truthful and is meritorious. It is not quite the same as Rule 11 which provides for direct Sanctions including a money penalty. The State Court rule has little for enforcement teeth; some can levy a Sanctions, upon application by adverse party, for attorney's fees but typically with a ceiling of $500.

                Typically the Court itself cannot levy its own Fine. And certainly cannot do anything dramatic to the offender; although in some very egregious cases the offending attorney has been sent for discipline to the Statewide Grievance Committee, and then that body has to investigate, hold Hearings, and rule, which in turn sends the offender to a trial for discipline and sanctions back to the State Court. It is laborious; you really don't see it very often. The Federal Rule 11 is much more draconian, in reach and in severity.

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