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    White House Say No to CA Budget Help

    Jun 16, 2009

    The White House on Tuesday dashed hopes that the federal government would help California overcome a mammoth budget crisis that has brought the state dangerously close to an economic meltdown, saying the state will have to solve the problem on its own.
    "It's obviously not an easy time for the state of California," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told a briefing when asked if the administration would provide emergency financing for the state.
    "We'll continue to monitor the challenges that they have, but this budgetary problem unfortunately is one that they're going to have to solve," Gibbs said.
    California's revenues are plunging amid recession, rising unemployment and the prolonged housing crisis, and the state is unable to borrow its way out of its immediate financial trouble by issuing debt because of its budget gap.
    It will run out of cash within weeks if it does not balance its books, according to State Controller John Chiang, who estimated last week California was "less than 50 days away from a meltdown of state government."
    One potential rescuer has been the federal government, and for nearly a year California Treasurer Bill Lockyer has pressured the U.S. Congress and the president to help the state with debt markets.
    While U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said this spring the administration was looking into assisting California and other states, it has yet to offer any help beyond that included for all states in the $787 billion economic stimulus plan passed in February.
    "Obviously many states throughout the country because of the slowdown in our economy find themselves with severe budgetary constraints," Gibbs said. "The president believed and addressed part of this in the recovery and reinvestment plan by ensuring the largest amount of fiscal relief that we've seen move to states in the history of our country."
    Gibbs said he didn't "know the degree to which we've analyzed each of California's individual (budget) cuts."
    This is not the first time a U.S. president has closed the federal wallet to a struggling state or city.
    In 1975 the New York Daily News ran the headline "Ford to city: drop dead," when then President Gerald Ford denied assistance to New York City that would have allowed the U.S. financial capital to sidestep filing for bankruptcy.
    WASHINGTON'S REBUFF ADDS TO DEBT MARKET WOES
    Standard & Poor's ratings agency on Monday put $67.1 billion of California's debt on alert for a possible ratings cut because the state may run out of cash by the end of July.
    Dick Larkin, director of credit analysis at Herbert J. Sims & Co Inc in Iselin, New Jersey, predicted a downgrade.
    "To say they've got big problems is an understatement. The budget problems are too large for the rating agencies to be comfortable with single-A ratings on the state."
    Washington's view toward California is one more reason to not hold the state's debt, said Tom Tarabicos, a financial adviser at Wells Fargo Financial Advisors Network in Roswell, Georgia.
    "We're selling every California bond we can," Tarabicos said. "We don't like them."
    Instead, Tarabicos said he may buy into California's general obligation debt next year should its yields rise to reflect inflation and continued risk to the state's finances from ongoing economic weakness.
    "Sometime next year you'll be able to buy California GOs somewhere around 7 percent or 8 percent," Tarabicos said, referring to general obligation bonds, adding:
    "Nothing is going to change in that state, fiscally, over the next two or three years. I just don't see anything positive coming out of there. It's going to be dead for quite a while."

    Source:
    Reuters.com
    (Reporting by David Alexander and Lisa Lambert in Washington, Jim Christie in San Francisco and Karen Pierog in Chicago; Editing by James Dalgleish)
    Last edited by Flamingo; 06-17-2009, 02:26 AM. Reason: To conform with forum posting rules - OP PLEASE NOTE FORMAT!!

    #2
    Aaah Crap!

    I better move!

    Broke or not, we still have the best weather!

    Maybe I will stay.

    I can always move to Mexico, I speak Spanish.

    Ay caramba!

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      #3
      I don't think the federal government should bail them out. Frankly it can't afford to as President Obama said a few Sunday's ago its out of money.

      What's funny is that probably if California cut out all the federal mandates that are either unfunded or underfunded then they could balance their budget, same is true of any of the states really.
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        #4
        Originally posted by dingdong View Post
        Aaah Crap!

        I better move!

        Broke or not, we still have the best weather!

        Maybe I will stay.

        I can always move to Mexico, I speak Spanish.

        Ay caramba!

        I knew you would post something Funny!! I have relatives in California and it's too Big! I like the Natural State - AR.

        Luci

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          #5
          Originally posted by JRScott View Post
          I don't think the federal government should bail them out. Frankly it can't afford to as President Obama said a few Sunday's ago its out of money.

          What's funny is that probably if California cut out all the federal mandates that are either unfunded or underfunded then they could balance their budget, same is true of any of the states really.
          I was waiting for a reply from you, even though, I used the wrong URL & got my hands slapped! Ouch

          I Totally Agree!!

          Luci

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            #6
            Terminating the Terminator will help.

            ( And I don't mean literally, just figuratively, just wanted to cover my butt in case the Cal secret service was reading)

            What the hell was our state thinking putting Aahnuld in charge?

            Caleeforneea needs someone with some experience and critical thinking skills at the healm, not a wee todd.

            My youngest daughter told me yesterday that when they were returning their text books to the library, there were 9 pinkslips sitting on the desk. She named every single teacher that received one. ( I am not sure if they were left there on purpose or not).

            There are 35 kids in my daughters class. Thank God she is a GATE student and gets a little extra bump curriculum wise, but I feel for those teachers having to take on even more kids per class next year. Teachers in California have to deal with significant issues like ESL students with language barriers and transitional students coming in and out due to migratory farm workers( at least in my area) plus all the other stuff teachers deal with.

            Now we will have less teachers, less money for education/curriculum/field trips. My DD school couldn't even afford to put out a yearbook this year, which isn't a high cost item ( just staple bound paper that the kids actually have to pay like 5.00 for)

            They had three field trips canceled this year because of funding cuts and there was a bulletin sent out that said the 6th grade kids would most likely no be going to outdoor camp next year (a 6th grade ritual since I was a kid in grade school).

            OK, done with rant.

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              #7
              The problem isn't that there isn't enough money for education, it is that there is too much money. Too much money, and greedy administrators with their hands clutching the purse strings with an army of pencil pushers that are terrified of saying anything about the waste as they may lose their cushy, useless jobs. Go to any state university or other public school and it's the same story, over and over.

              It's also funny how the Feds refuse to help the state with the largest economy, when we've been forking over 30 cents on the dollar to float the federal budget. It isn't like we would be expecting something that isn't ours. After all, it's reasonable for Californians to expect our money back from that Iraqi war based on lies.

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                #8
                Schwartzeneger should just donate some of his Hollywood money if he really cared...would clear it up in a second!

                I often make jokes that if each person in Hollywood donated a million dollars to the US debt it would be totally wiped out.
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                  #9
                  I think what really sucks is that he will bail them out. Last year Bush didn't want to bail anyone one out either. You saw what happened.

                  The Hollywood left is to Obama what Wall Street was to Hank Paulson.
                  The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of Government

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                    #10
                    I live right in the middle of Ca and I say let us go broke! We (Ca) have like the 10th largest economy in the world if we were a country of our own.

                    Everything here is so high priced and the Government handouts are crazy. They wonder how we got here...40 years of handouts, wage increases, over spending etc..I mean when a guy who changes road signs used to make 14.00 and hr now gets 35.00 hr plus all the benefits who's paying for it? Everybody wants to make more and more but its got to come from somewhere, and somewhere has run out. the only way this will sort out unfortunately is to let it crash and rebuild from there.
                    "I'm old enough to know better, but too young to care"
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                    341 Hearing March 4th 2010
                    Discharged May 10th 2010

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Overmylimit View Post
                      I live right in the middle of Ca and I say let us go broke! We (Ca) have like the 10th largest economy in the world if we were a country of our own.

                      Everything here is so high priced and the Government handouts are crazy. They wonder how we got here...40 years of handouts, wage increases, over spending etc..I mean when a guy who changes road signs used to make 14.00 and hr now gets 35.00 hr plus all the benefits who's paying for it? Everybody wants to make more and more but its got to come from somewhere, and somewhere has run out. the only way this will sort out unfortunately is to let it crash and rebuild from there.
                      Yep this is exactly what's happened. However unfunded and underfunded federal mandates cost each of the states billions of dollars, and the stimulus package just passed in Fed 09 put them on the dole for billions more going forward, which is why more Governors and state legislatures should have rejected it.
                      May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
                      July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
                      September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.

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                        #12
                        I'd say it's about time the states remind the federal government who is in charge. California should advise its citizens to put their federal taxes into an escrow account brokered by the state until the federal government can prove where the money is going.

                        This nation was founded on protesting taxes, on refusing to pay for the ludicrous indulgences of an imperial power. By using the public coffers to shore up massive institutions that have profited from fraud instead of using that credit to ensure the security of the nation's largest economy, the federal government itself becomes party to that fraud.

                        Not that I agree with any of the bailouts anyways...it's all robbing Peter to pay Paul, with someone taking a cut along the way. It would be much simpler for communities to help themselves out of this mess if the burden of debt was lifted from their shoulders, just as it was for our "friends" on Wall Street.

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