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[JRScott]

i dont believe in the outsourcing of our jobs to India or and other country only because of the fact that its hurting our economy more and taking more jobs away from us.

Most Americans feel as you do but we keep frequenting the businesses that do this so really do we really want to keep the jobs here?

[AMISLANDER]

i dont believe in the outsourcing of our jobs to India or and other country only because of the fact that its hurting our economy more and taking more jobs away from us.

Right on....those jobs should be going to Americans!

[heraldangel]

[Rahaton]

The United States has one of the highest corporation taxes in the world. [snip]
If you own a corporation you pay close to 38% in corporate tax and then you still pay your income tax. Wouldn't you want to save money?

The problem is that you are looking at a tax on profits, not income, which makes it a bit different than what individuals pay. And just like with individuals just because the marginal rate is 38% you only pay that if you are too dumb to even run TuboTax.

What income group pays the most federal income taxes today?

The latest data show that a big portion of the federal income tax burden is shoul*dered by a small group of the very richest Americans. The wealthiest 1 percent of the population earn 19 per*cent of the income but pay 37 percent of the income tax. The top 10 percent pay 68 percent of the tab. Meanwhile, the bottom 50 percent—those below the median income level—now earn 13 percent of the income but pay just 3 percent of the taxes. These are proportions of the income tax alone and don’t include payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare.

There is the rub, when you include those things Social Security is 12.4%, Medicare 2.9, and unemployment is 6.2. So before one of us wage slaves pays their first red cent of income tax we have already given up 21.5% of our income. So when TurboTax tells me I Have an effective rate of 15% on my income taxes. That means that Uncle Sam is getting 36.5% from me, so I am not too sympathetic to the squeals of those in higher brackets that pay a lower percentage than me already.

So there you go. Hate me if you will but unless you want to make this country great again you are stuck with outsourcing, DMV and the post office run or ruined by the government--Can't wait until they screw up our healthcare like Canada and especially England.

You know I am just happy that the new management isn't using faith-based economics anymore.

[heraldangel]

You know I am just happy that the new management isn't using faith-based economics anymore.

I immigrated from England to America to get a way from socialism. If you fail- you pick your feet up and move on. Strive for more. You don't make other people pay for your mistake or have the government come and bail you out.

But you are happy that he is a socialist? People just don't realize how bad socialism is destroying other countries. Making everyone equal, who wants to strive to be something great. Look at England it has the worse healthcare system. I don't want to be told that since I am 60 and overweight that I cannot be treated for breast cancer. I have a right to live if I want to. Who wants to do something great in the world if only to have their earnings distributed among everyone else. The US is printing money. I don't care if the president is faith-based or not. I want a strong economic president a fiscal responsible president. That is what I want. We have not had any president that has been responsible for this country economics in my lifetime. How about that instead of basing this on faith.
Our founding fathers based it on Judeo-christian ideals. It was to be centered around the people being in charge of their lives not the government. The concept was how jewish people functioned as a society. the family was the first unit that handled all problems. If the family could not fix a problem within themselves, it went to a group that consisted of 10 families and then if no fix-100 families. Family First, then community, then state with very little input from the federal. ( Federal government should always have little to do with the free will of the people and federal should deal with defense issues) I don't feel that our federal government has the right to tax me to the extreme to pay for others less fortunate. I lived that way in England, and what a mess it is there now. Just my thought-

You want to see what is happening to this country. Read about the Weimar Republic (germany post world war 1) This isn't about faith-based spare me. I am not even religious and couldn't care less whether the president was or was not. Spare me. If people want to pray, let them pray, if they don't like myself they shouldn't have to. If I choose to send me kids to a catholic school then they should take religion in that school because it is a catholic school. If I go to a public school jello should be served and not taken off the menu because they have muslim people in the school. People aren't forced to eat jello. I think a town is responsible for saving up for projects important only to that community. If they cannot raise the money to fund a project in the community then the federal government shouldn't fund that community project either. (What does that have to do with Faith?)

Heraldangel is (Newspaper such as the Herald, and angel is what my SO calls me so don't think I am religious to get me goat) I could less what one believes. I haven't seen any president trying to throw Jesus down my throat. Abortion is ethical to me, when does life start-not religious. I do believe we have a right to choose even if my choice isn't to have an abortion but it just affects religious people more because they believe that killing another person is wrong.

Hope I didn't get to confusing. Sometimes people focus on so much of the little things that they lose site that our freedoms are being taken away. One little notch at a time.

[lrprn]

Ok, everyone. There are several threads dedicated to political discussions in the General Bankruptcy area. Those threads are there for a reason.

Please post ALL politically motivated posts (support for the current government, criticism of the current government, "the world as we know it is ending - dig a bunker and buy a gun".....you get the picture) on one of those dedicated political discussion threads.

Airing your political views is fine - just limit that airing to the proper forum location. Otherwise this back and forth "I'm right" / "No, you're wrong and I'm right" arguments that change no one's mind hijack threads that belong to the original poster.

If these politically motivated posts continue here, we mods will be forced to close this thread to further posting. Thanks.

[Rahaton]

I'll respect the mods and stop this here, although it would have been nice to point out the errors above ;-)

[shabam]

The United States has one of the highest corporation taxes in the world. 2nd only to Japan. Lower taxes here so companies want to stay here. If I owned a company where I could outsource- you betcha I would out source just so I could lower costs in other areas. I am sorry you need to listen to people that barely speak english but I am afraid until we stop taxing our citizens to death we will continue on this path. Make incentives for a business to remain in this country and they will. It is the American way, if you want it different move to a country that was founded on a more social nature.
If you own a corporation you pay close to 38% in corporate tax and then you still pay your income tax. Wouldn't you want to save money?

What income group pays the most federal income taxes today?

The latest data show that a big portion of the federal income tax burden is shoul*dered by a small group of the very richest Americans. The wealthiest 1 percent of the population earn 19 per*cent of the income but pay 37 percent of the income tax. The top 10 percent pay 68 percent of the tab. Meanwhile, the bottom 50 percent—those below the median income level—now earn 13 percent of the income but pay just 3 percent of the taxes. These are proportions of the income tax alone and don’t include payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare.

So there you go. Hate me if you will but unless you want to make this country great again you are stuck with outsourcing, DMV and the post office run or ruined by the government--Can't wait until they screw up our healthcare like Canada and especially England.

I've used the healthcare system in both of those countries and did not experience any of the scare tactics we heard about them. I also did not have to worry about what is or is not covered or fear that my treatment would not be provided, as its not economically viable for the insurance company to do so.

I'd rather have a public hospital determine the appropriate treatment than the status quo, where the board of an insurance company gets to determine both it any my life. Too bad no other developed country sees it this way, for obvious reasons of course.

Spare me with the rich are being done by hard. Our minimum wage is a disgrace. No one can possibly live off it. A weeks worth of minimum wage work would not pay 3 days rent in most places. The rich are earning millions to billions of dollars, so they can afford to pay more than their fellow citizens on $6 an hour. Evidently, the $6 per hour is why they are not paying as much tax in the first place.

Anyone who stands up for the rich on this forum is a moron. Yes the same rich people who screw over the country and we the people on a daily basis.

[blankslate]

The United States has one of the highest corporation taxes in the world. 2nd only to Japan. Lower taxes here so companies want to stay here. If I owned a company where I could outsource- you betcha I would out source just so I could lower costs in other areas. I am sorry you need to listen to people that barely speak english but I am afraid until we stop taxing our citizens to death we will continue on this path. Make incentives for a business to remain in this country and they will. It is the American way, if you want it different move to a country that was founded on a more social nature.
If you own a corporation you pay close to 38% in corporate tax and then you still pay your income tax. Wouldn't you want to save money?

It would be great if this cost saving measure was passed onto the consumer but in most cases it is not. I disagree on this. If they don't want to pay the taxes for the country they live in, then they should not be able to earn their money on the citizens of this country while taking away their jobs.

Maybe if these wealthy corporations kept the jobs in this country and paid their taxes - taxes might go down because the unemployment rate and social services would not be needed to the degree they are now.

I don't get it. Everyone wants to live in the USA and make their money here but they don't want to pay out into the system that gives them the roads they drive on, the parks they play in, libraries to study in, etc. You get angry if you hit a pothole and it damages your car, but you don't want to pay the taxes that would've fixed that pothole.

Also, not only do they skip out on their corporate tax by outsourcing, but when 1000 jobs go to India, that's 1000 more people who won't be paying taxes and putting the burden on the rest of us who are still working in this country.