My local schedule J is different from regular form

[timewalk169]

Hi there my regular Schedule J is very different from
my local form no.16 regular expenses from operation of business,profession or farm
Here is my local form
I have a sole member LLC
I'm basically trying to add my expenses from my business
no.16 regular expenses from operation of business,profession or farm



Debtor 1 __________________________________________________ _____ Case number (if known)_____________________________________ First Name Middle Name Last Name
Official Form B 6J Schedule J: Your Expenses page 2
Your expenses
5. Additional mortgage payments for your residence, such as home equity loans 5. $_____________________
6. Utilities:
6a. Electricity, heat, natural gas 6a. $_____________________
6b. Water, sewer, garbage collection 6b. $_____________________
6c. Telephone, cell phone, Internet, satellite, and cable services 6c. $_____________________
6d. Other. Specify: _______________________________________________ 6d. $_____________________
7. Food and housekeeping supplies 7. $_____________________
8. Childcare and children’s education costs 8. $_____________________
9. Clothing, laundry, and dry cleaning 9. $_____________________
10. Personal care products and services 10. $_____________________
11. Medical and dental expenses 11. $_____________________
12. Transportation. Include gas, maintenance, bus or train fare.
Do not include car payments. 12. $_____________________
13. Entertainment, clubs, recreation, newspapers, magazines, and books 13. $_____________________
14. Charitable contributions and religious donations 14. $_____________________
15. Insurance.
Do not include insurance deducted from your pay or included in lines 4 or 20.
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15a. Life insurance 15a. $_____________________
15b. Health insurance 15b. $_____________________
15c. Vehicle insurance 15c. $_____________________
15d. Other insurance. Specify:_______________________________________ 15d. $_____________________
16. Taxes. Do not include taxes deducted from your pay or included in lines 4 or 20.
Specify: __________________________________________________ ______ 16. $_____________________
17. Installment or lease payments:
17a. Car payments for Vehicle 1 17a. $_____________________
17b. Car payments for Vehicle 2 17b. $_____________________
17c. Other. Specify:__________________________________________ _____ 17c. $_____________________
17d. Other. Specify:__________________________________________ _____ 17d. $_____________________
18. Your payments of alimony, maintenance, and support that you did not report as deducted
from your pay on line 5, Schedule I, Your Income (Official Form B 6I). 18. $_____________________
19. Other payments you make to support others who do not live with you.
Specify:__________________________________________ _____________ 19. $_________________

[LadyInTheRed]

Actually, I don't think that is a local form. It is just part of the Chap 7 form packet that the court includes on their website. They have just filled in the name of the district.

Your business expenses do not go on Schedule J. See line 8a of Schedule I.

[LadyInTheRed]

You refer twice to "No. 16." What are you referring to? Where did you get this form?

[timewalk169]

You refer twice to "No. 16." What are you referring to? Where did you get this form?

Hi there
I'm a bit confused with schedule j
I'm using Nolo bankruptcy book and all
Is well except when I got forms from Colorado
Bankruptcy website schedule j form is not the same
At all first part has questions about my dependents
But anyways on a schedule j #16 says
regular expenses from operation of business, profession or farm
I wasn't sure what to feel in as I have 2 different
Schedule j forms

[LadyInTheRed]

I looked on the Colorado Bankruptcy Court's website and the only Schedule J I found was from the forms packet and it is the federal form. Can you provide a link to the form you are looking at?

[LadyInTheRed]

Okay, I just did a search to try to figure out what form you are looking at. I found a site called Colorado Chapter 7 Bankruptcy with a Chap 7 forms packet that has an old Schedule J form with the line 16 that you describe. I bet you are getting the form from that site or some other site. You need to be getting forms from the court's website and nowhere else.

On the current forms, net business income goes on Schedule I and you are supposed to include an attachment showing how you calculated the net.

[timewalk169]

Hi ladyinthered
thank you for your help
This form was driving me insane

[LadyInTheRed]

Have you found the actual court website? It is important that you rely on that site for forms and local procedures.

[timewalk169]

Have you found the actual court website? It is important that you rely on that site for forms and local procedures.

Hi there I found the Colorado form schedule j seems the nolo books form is a lot different from the Colorado bankruptcy website
but i figured it out seems the Colorado form asks a little more questions age of Dependent’s ,do they live with you and so on.

[LadyInTheRed]

Hi there I found the Colorado form schedule j seems the nolo books form is a lot different from the Colorado bankruptcy website
but i figured it out seems the Colorado form asks a little more questions age of Dependent’s ,do they live with you and so on.

You keep saying "Colorado bankruptcy website." That sounds a lot like the site I found that is not the court website and has the outdated form you are looking at. I suggest you find the court website or find a lawyer.

[JSFleischman]

Changes to Schedule J were implemented as of December 1, 2013.

The official bankruptcy forms can all be found on the website for the U.S. Courts here: http://www.uscourts.gov/FormsAndFees...ptcyForms.aspx

Check your local bankruptcy court for local rules and forms that may supplement the official ones.