So, our case is *this close* to final discharge. We expect it to happen later this week or next and all is well. We've now come up against a small issue. One of the debts listed is for about $500 in tuition/school fees to a community college from before we filed. These are just regular fees charged by the school and were NOT covered by a loan, grant or any of the kind. We were paying those fees directly out of pocket until that semester, when everything fell apart on us. I continued taking the courses and received my grades. This was all done well before we filed. The school never dropped me for non-payment of tuition and I actually have access to my transcript. Again, no student loans of any kind were involved here and the debt was included in our bankruptcy.
Now, we've learned they've placed a registration hold and I am not allowed to register for additional classes until it is paid. Now, that's fairly normal and I wouldn't argue it except that this is included in the bankruptcy, and is NOT related to a loan. I'm reading a fairly equally differing opinions on this. Some seem to say that if it isn't a government backed student loan, then it is dischargeable. I've also seen opinions that state any "educational benefit" received is non-dischargeable.
In my reading of 523(a)(8)(A)(ii) I can see where that phrase comes in, but I think maybe some people are reading it wrong????
"(8)(A) unless excepting such debt from discharge under this paragraph would impose an undue hardship on the debtor and the debtor’s dependents, for— ... (ii) an obligation to repay funds received as an educational benefit, scholarship, or stipend..."
The way I read this is that it refers to non-dischargeable debts as "funds received as an educational benefit" ... Got it. That means loans and the like. But, I didn't receive any funds as an educational benefit in this case. This is simply a bill for tuition that didn't get paid. Even if I did get a student loan for that semester and failed to my tuition... IMO, the tuition would STILL be dischargeable, but the loan (or funds) I received as a benefit would not. Am I missing something? I see the bill for tuition and fees separate from loans given. In my case, no loan was involved anyway.
Can somebody let me know if I'm right or not here?
On a different, ironic note... because of our financial status, I actually received a financial aid tuition waiver from the same school for this fall -- it's the CA Board of Governor's grant. But, the school won't let me register until the previous debt is cleared. I reminded them about the bankruptcy and the lady at the admissions office said they were exempt from bankruptcy issues and I have to pay up. Right now, I disagree with that... and while we aren't yet discharged, I was hoping to register as soon as the discharge came through. Instead, the admissions office followed up by mailing me a bill.
Now, we've learned they've placed a registration hold and I am not allowed to register for additional classes until it is paid. Now, that's fairly normal and I wouldn't argue it except that this is included in the bankruptcy, and is NOT related to a loan. I'm reading a fairly equally differing opinions on this. Some seem to say that if it isn't a government backed student loan, then it is dischargeable. I've also seen opinions that state any "educational benefit" received is non-dischargeable.
In my reading of 523(a)(8)(A)(ii) I can see where that phrase comes in, but I think maybe some people are reading it wrong????
"(8)(A) unless excepting such debt from discharge under this paragraph would impose an undue hardship on the debtor and the debtor’s dependents, for— ... (ii) an obligation to repay funds received as an educational benefit, scholarship, or stipend..."
The way I read this is that it refers to non-dischargeable debts as "funds received as an educational benefit" ... Got it. That means loans and the like. But, I didn't receive any funds as an educational benefit in this case. This is simply a bill for tuition that didn't get paid. Even if I did get a student loan for that semester and failed to my tuition... IMO, the tuition would STILL be dischargeable, but the loan (or funds) I received as a benefit would not. Am I missing something? I see the bill for tuition and fees separate from loans given. In my case, no loan was involved anyway.
Can somebody let me know if I'm right or not here?
On a different, ironic note... because of our financial status, I actually received a financial aid tuition waiver from the same school for this fall -- it's the CA Board of Governor's grant. But, the school won't let me register until the previous debt is cleared. I reminded them about the bankruptcy and the lady at the admissions office said they were exempt from bankruptcy issues and I have to pay up. Right now, I disagree with that... and while we aren't yet discharged, I was hoping to register as soon as the discharge came through. Instead, the admissions office followed up by mailing me a bill.
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