Pacer

[donnao]

my 341 meeting is July 28. Joined Pacer and looked up my file. Next to flags it said MEANSNO and Debt Ed. Does anyone know what this means? Also under inerested party is Le Lord and Taylor.I looked up file and it said notice of apperance and request. What does this mean. Nervous. Please help! I have completed both debt courses.

[tobee43]

i do believe and some will correct me if i'm wrong, but that DebtEd, means your Debtor Education Course is Due...(you have to take your required class/es)

and MEANSNO , believe means "No Presumption of Abuse" from the Means Test.

[sunshinepa]

The easiest way I found to track whats happening with my case on Pacer was to just check the Docket Report and the Status. Mostly I just look at the Docket Report. You should go on and verify that the pre BK course was filed, it will give you the dates and etc.

Tobee is correct on the MeansNo............for the Debt Ed. that may not have been filed yet. As I said, check the Docket Report and if it isn't filed, call your attorney.

[tobee43]

The easiest way I found to track whats happening with my case on Pacer was to just check the Docket Report and the Status. Mostly I just look at the Docket Report. You should go on and verify that the pre BK course was filed, it will give you the dates and etc.

Tobee is correct on the MeansNo............for the Debt Ed. that may not have been filed yet. As I said, check the Docket Report and if it isn't filed, call your attorney.

i think someone needs to make up a lists for Pacer lingo!!! LOL!! it's so confusing to so many.

[donnao]

Thanks, appreciate the info. Do you happen to know what the Appearance and Request thing is? I think it means they want notification that I attend the 341 meeting, not sure.

[tobee43]

Thanks, appreciate the info. Do you happen to know what the Appearance and Request thing is? I think it means they want notification that I attend the 341 meeting, not sure.

i believe once again and someone will correct me if i'm wrong, they may vary state to state or if you are filing federally it's usually a standard process done by your atty to your creditors. something like this:


NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND REQUEST FOR NOTICE

Please take notice that the undersigned, proposed counsel for the Official
Committee of Unsecured Creditors, without consenting to or waiving any rights with
respect to jurisdiction, requests copies of all notices and pleadings pursuant to Federal
Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure 2002(a), (b) and (f), and 3017(a). All such notices should
be addressed and emailed as follows:

and so on and so forth...please anyone chime in!!

[sunshinepa]

i think someone needs to make up a lists for Pacer lingo!!! LOL!! it's so confusing to so many.

That's for sure tobee...........I learned myself the hard way. It would be nice if it was listed under the other sticky for Pacer (LOL forgot exactly where that's at but know it's here).

[tobee43]

yes, i thought there was a sticky around as well...but all i can find is :http://www.bkforum.com/showthread.ph...Guide-amp-Tips

which appears more like out to navigate Pacer...i couldn't find any other one. that doesn't mean it's not here, that just means i can't find it either!

[keepmine]

Thanks, appreciate the info. Do you happen to know what the Appearance and Request thing is? I think it means they want notification that I attend the 341 meeting, not sure.

No biggie. They just want all notices about your bk to go to this particular lawfirm.
AMEX does that using a lawfirm in Pa.

[donnao]

Pacer

The notice is from GM Money Management, they represent Lord and Taylor. From what I can make out they want all notices given or required sent to them electronically or otherwise. A lot of legal jargon rules 2002 and 9007 etc. Is this what you were talking about?

[tobee43]

The notice is from GM Money Management, they represent Lord and Taylor. From what I can make out they want all notices given or required sent to them electronically or otherwise. A lot of legal jargon rules 2002 and 9007 etc. Is this what you were talking about?

are you filing pro se?????

[donnao]

Pacer

No I have an attorney

[donnao]

I found this in my on my pacer acct. I have an appt. with my attorney next week, I'll ask him about it.

[tobee43]

really there is not much for you to do, this process is normally done electronically by your atty...not you. i know you're worried, filing bk has a tendency to do that to you. i know it's hard...you'll be fine.

so you have a bit of understand of the process,here's usually how it's done:

http://www.pacer.gov/ecfcbt/bk3/Notice_Of_Appearance_and_Request/Notice_Of_Appearance_and_Request.htm

[donnao]

Does mean they are objecting to something?