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    25 (bullsh*t) Changes to Personal Bankruptcy Law

    25 (bullsh*t) Changes to Personal Bankruptcy Law

    1. Means Test for Chapter 7 Eligibility2. Mandatory Credit Counseling3. Limit on Auto Lien-stripping in Chapter 13

    A Chapter 13 plan must provide that a secured creditor retain its lien until the payment of the entire debt, not just the secured portion, where the creditor holds a security interest in a motor vehicle purchased within 910 days of the filing.

    4. Mandatory Debtor Education5. Scope of Discharge

    Debts owed to a single creditor totaling more than $500 for luxury goods incurred within 90 days of filing are presumed nondischargeable; cash advances of $750 within 70 days are similarly treated.

    6. Serial Filings (Chapter 20)

    A discharge will not be granted in Chapter 13 if the debtor obtained a discharge in Chapter 7, 11 or 12 within the 4 years prior to the date of filing of the pending case, or in a Chapter 13 case filed within 2 years of the pending case. This provision, though, does not prevent the debtor from filing a Chapter 13 case and receiving the benefits of the stay, including the ability to cure arrearages on secured claims over a period of time.

    7. Time between Discharge

    A Chapter 7 debtor cannot receive a discharge if a prior discharge was received within 8 years (rather than 6) of the new filing.

    8. Homestead Exemption

    Debtors may elect state exemptions in the state in which they have lived for the 730 days prior to the bankruptcy. If they have moved during that 730-day period, the state exemptions are those for the state in which they lived the majority of the time for the 180 days before the 730-day period. Regardless of the level of state exemptions, the debtor may only exempt up to $125,000 of interest in a homestead that was acquired within the 1,215-day period prior to the filing, but the calculation of that amount does not include any equity that has been rolled over during that period from one house to another within the same state. For those who have violated securities laws or engaged in certain criminal conduct, the cap is $125,000, notwithstanding a higher State law allowance. To the extent the homestead was obtained through fraudulent conversion of nonexempt assets during the 10-year period before the filing, the exemption is reduced by the amount attributed to the fraud.

    9. Reaffirmations10. Limit on Automatic Stay11. Notice to Creditors

    Notice to be given by a debtor to creditors must be to the address designated by the creditor, either in communications to the debtor or by the creditor's preferred address as provided to the court. Such notice to creditors must include account numbers.

    12. Duration of Chapter 13 Plans13. Dismissal for Failure to file Documents and Schedules

    In addition to the list of creditors, schedules of assets and liabilities, income and expenses, debtors must provide:

    - certificate of credit counseling
    - evidence of payment from employers, if any, received 60 days before filing
    - statement of monthly net income and any anticipated increase in income of expenses after filing
    - tax returns or transcripts for the most recent tax year
    - tax returns filed during the case including tax returns for prior years that had not been filed when the cases began
    - a photo ID, among other items.

    Failure to provide the documents within 45 days after the petition has been filed (with a possibility of a 45-day extension) results in automatic dismissal of the case after the time period has passed.

    14. Attorney Verification Required15. Disposable-income Test in Individual Chapter 11 Case17. Domestic Support Obligations

    Support obligations are a first priority, but the administrative costs of a trustee are paid ahead of the support costs to the extent that the trustee is administering assets that can be used to pay support costs. To the extent such support claims have been assigned to or are directly recoverable by a governmental entity, such claims are subordinated to the support of claims that are not assigned. The stay does not apply to the payment of a domestic support obligation from property that is not property of the estate or to the enforcement of a wage-withholding order under a judicial or administrative order, or statute, including obligations accruing from both before and after the filing. Failure to remain current on support claims is grounds for conversion or dismissal of a case, the debtor must be current on post-petition obligations in order to confirm a plan, the plan must provide for priority payment or support debts (with a limited cramdown available for claims assigned to or owed directly to a governmental unit), and the debtor may not obtain a discharge unless such obligations are paid in accordance with the terms of the plan.

    18. Superdischarge in Chapter 13 Reduced20. Asset-protection Trusts22. Changes in Treatment of Taxes23. Eviction Proceedings

    The stay will not prevent or halt a detainer action if the debtor failed to pay rent after filing.

    24. Tax Returns Mandatory25. Nondischargeability of Student Loans Expanded

    Student loan nondischargeability is extended to for-profit and nongovernmental entities.



    Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

    [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
    [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
    [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
    [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

    #2
    ok find me 2 new changes that benefit the consumer. you know, the ones that didnt vote on the law changes.

    im just wondering, im not sure-sure about this at all, but were the changes made by people that are benefited by them by any chance?

    they sure did a damn good job at it.
    Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

    [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
    [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
    [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
    [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

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      #3
      Oh, and there's a little hitch in the Means Test you gotta watch out for as well.

      The places where you enter payments on secured loans, like an auto loan, your mortgage, etc. Most people filing may not have a problem with their mortgage payments, but auto loans can be a whole different thing all together.

      You have to take the amount of the loan principal and treat it as if it were for the next 5 years. Say you currently make $250/mo car payments with $6000 remaining to be paid over 30 months. You should be able to enter $250/mo in that slot on the Means Test, right??!! Nope. You have to divide the $6K by 60 for 5 years of payments. So instead of being able to enter your actual $250/mo car payment, the Means Test only allows you to enter $100/mo as your car payment. If you have more than 5 years remaining on you mortage (Who doesn't???), your current payment is what will be entered. If you have less than 5 years remaining on your home loan, the principal balance will also be divided by 60 to determine your Means Test "actual" house payment.

      Gee,........ Was that one more way to stick it to the little people who vote but don't really get a say in anything??!!
      Filed Ch 7 - 09/06
      Discharged - 12/2006
      Officially Declared No Asset - 03/2007
      Closed - 04/2007

      I am not an attorney. My comments are based on personal experience and research. Always consult an attorney in your area to address concerns related to your particular situation.

      Another good thing about being poor is that when you are seventy your children will not have declared you legally insane in order to gain control of your estate. - Woody Allen...

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        #4
        Originally posted by SinkingFast
        You have to take the amount of the loan principal and treat it as if it were for the next 5 years. Say you currently make $250/mo car payments with $6000 remaining to be paid over 30 months. You should be able to enter $250/mo in that slot on the Means Test, right??!! Nope. You have to divide the $6K by 60 for 5 years of payments. So instead of being able to enter your actual $250/mo car payment, the Means Test only allows you to enter $100/mo as your car payment. If you have more than 5 years remaining on you mortage (Who doesn't???), your current payment is what will be entered. If you have less than 5 years remaining on your home loan, the principal balance will also be divided by 60 to determine your Means Test "actual" house payment.

        Yes, This is how the payment is to be figured for the calculation. The good part is that you can also deduct the remainder of the IRS standard allowance for the autos and housing.

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          #5
          Originally posted by bkfiler
          6. Serial Filings (Chapter 20)

          A discharge will not be granted in Chapter 13 if the debtor obtained a discharge in Chapter 7, 11 or 12 within the 4 years prior to the date of filing of the pending case, or in a Chapter 13 case filed within 2 years of the pending case. This provision, though, does not prevent the debtor from filing a Chapter 13 case and receiving the benefits of the stay, including the ability to cure arrearages on secured claims over a period of time.
          I have seen this part of the code interpreted this way - discharge date to subsequent discharge date - and also that the period of time is between the discharge date and subsequent filing date, which would lengthen out the time significantly. We have debated this point on here before where I dug up the actual code and it was concluded it would be discharge to filing. Since none of us are atty's, I can't wait to find someone who can clear this up.
          Last edited by JimH; 01-14-2006, 07:04 PM.

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            #6
            my understanding has always been filing date to filing date.

            i always should have been an attorney, but didnt want to be, does that count? i think it should be from the date you first felt, for a period of longer then 30 seconds, that you might need some financial help until the next time you think its pretty sure that you have once again screwed up and you are gonna need some financial help yet again. does this make sense?
            Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

            [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
            [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
            [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
            [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

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              #7
              i found this on the internet. it must be true, lol.

              ----------------------------------------------
              How often can I file successive bankruptcies under the new bankruptcy law?
              It remains true that anyone can file as many cases as they want to file, as often as they want. The utility of serial filing has, however, been greatly reduced.

              A debtor cannot obtain a discharge in a Chapter 7 case if the debtor obtained a discharge in (a) a Chapter 7 case filed within the past 8 years, or (b) a Chapter 13 case filed within the past 6 years. The time periods in either case are measured from the commencement dates of the respective cases. The dates of discharge have no bearing on the disqualification.
              Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

              [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
              [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
              [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
              [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

              Comment


                #8
                Originally posted by bkfiler
                i found this on the internet. it must be true, lol.
                lol...yeah I've seen it interpreted both ways on the net. I prefer your post's interpretation better although Staci shot me down when I posted the actual code.

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                  #9
                  staci doesnt know jack. not only is she a girl... never mind i better quit while im ahead

                  im sticking with filing date. anything else is just too unpredictable.
                  Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

                  [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
                  [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
                  [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
                  [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Bk, you gotta relax! People can still file and get relief. The cheats will have a tougher time. Much tougher then the little guy. In one of the links you sent earlier it states that (and I've been saying this) the means test was always there. As you know it's usually the 59th day people got the test under old law. Now it's a take home test instead. As Jim said you can still deduct the remainder. As far as 8 years instead of 6 you just need to hang in there for 2 more years before coming back here . With the student loan and means test situation I guess those with student loans will go into chapter 13 plans, the payments will mostly go into student loan payments as they would in or out of the plan and the credit card companies will still get screwed when 5 years are up and the debtor gets a discharge of those debts that weren't paid anyway. This is of course assuming that student loans are treated like a priority debt. With the new minimums at 4% many people will break the 2005 record of 2 million bankruptcies.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by bkfiler
                      ok find me 2 new changes that benefit the consumer. you know, the ones that didnt vote on the law changes.

                      im just wondering, im not sure-sure about this at all, but were the changes made by people that are benefited by them by any chance?

                      they sure did a damn good job at it.

                      1-More retirement accounts are exempt

                      2-Retirement loan paybacks count as an expense


                      2 things the old law didn't allow.

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                        #12
                        no. i dont think so.

                        find me 2 of the 25 major changes in the law that benefit us.

                        you can find plenty of little reasons why a steamy dump on your pillow is good for you too but lets get real.

                        try again
                        Im not an attorney or a trustee. You cant trust me either though!

                        [x] - Done with 341? Join the 60 Day Club! ___________[x] - Im Discharged! Whoo Hooo!
                        [x] - Poll: Should I File Pro-Se ____________________[x] - New BK Law: Median Income, Means Testing and Presumptive Abuse
                        [x] - Zombie Debt Collectors Dig Up Your Old Mistakes _-[x] - Bankruptcy Law Resource
                        [x] - Need A Fast Answer? Available 24/7!--__________[x] - Dont Be A Hero On Your Budget - You Wont Get An Award!

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