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    Pre vs. Post-Bankrupty

    I thought it might be interesting to for some of us to post about things they noticed about their behavior in hindsight, post-bankruptcy.

    I'm embarrassed to write some of this, but those struggling pre-BK might get some relief at seeing I made it through and things changed.

    I think the roughly two years I spent cash only before I finally ended up filing were very beneficial.

    For example:

    1- I was cleaning and found an old day planner. Just flipping through the pages I was getting a knot in my stomach. I had notes with due dates, amounts, deposits, etc. on various dates. It was crazy to see how complicated my financial life was -- and how little room for error I had.

    (For example notes about the exact last minute something could be paid, how to transfer from here and there to scrape together enough to just make the payment, etc)

    Stupid things like paying the overdraft line on my checking account on a particular date so the payment would be credited but I could still advance it back to my account in time to make a payment to another creditor.

    Scribbles of calculations showing barely pennies left for the week after I made the required payments. If I wait till then for this bill, skip that, hopefully make $X in side income, do this, etc. I'll get through this week.


    2- In the past I used this old planner as my wallet. It had spots for my cards, ID, checkbook and register, etc.

    I remembered it being convenient so I started to transfer the contents of my current wallet over.

    There was no place for cash. It had never been a problem before because I never had any cash. I would put all cash in the bank to ensure I had everything I could to make payments. And if necessary could use a card for expenses that would have otherwise been paid with cash.

    Walking around with even $20 that didn't have a very specific reason for needing to be in cash was unheard of.

    3- I began using my bank's bill pay feature. I didn't have a single payee stored because I never used it in the past. Sometimes it takes a few days for a payment sent that way to post. Everything was always so tight I would make my payments on the payee's website directly so they would post immediately (or else I'd be late). If I needed to send the payment a few days early, there was a good chance I didn't have enough funds available yet.

    4- I have always used computer software to keep track of my finances. In the past my credit card accounts were entered such that they appeared "green" and "positive" by the amount of the credit limit. So the bottom of my summary of all accounts might say for example "Total Available - $4,000". $X may have been from checking, $Y from Amex, $Z from Visa, etc. Available credit was reflected in my available balances.

    When I entered my post BK credit accounts, they started at $0. So any spending I do on the account reflects as a negative balance. That means if my "Total Available" in cash accounts was say $4000 and I charged a $50 purchase, it will now say "Total Available $3950". Not taking into account available credit on the card. Since I should only be considering cash as available.

    This way according to the summary on the screen that I look at each evening, all that's "available" for me to spend is what I have in cash minus things I've charged and will need to pay for shortly.


    For me #4 seems like a small thing, but really represents a significant change that came about after two years cash only caused me to relearn behaviors I originally had but lost after a few poor decisions slowly snowballed into an entire financial life out of control.

    Any words of wisdom other's have noticed when reflecting on their past life post-BK?

    #2
    I think this is a great post. Probably should be stickied if enough people respond and are interested.

    The idea of marking readily available CREDIT in green sticks out. Almost like a green stoplight: Go AHEAD--SPEND!!

    I did similar things. Mostly I kept my head in the sand and kept spending like "the old days" when I brought in 700k or more per year.

    Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but I have now paid 500k interest on a 400k house. I could have paid it off in two years if I had my head together at the time.

    Live and learn.

    I hope many, MANY other people share.
    11-20-09-- Filed Chapter 7
    12-23-09-- 341 Meeting-Early Christmas Gift?
    3-9-10--Discharged

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      #3
      I've been having some of the same thoughts. I've been using only cash for the last 15 months or so, so the transition to no credit cards has already happened. Thinking back to when I was making $150K a year, I had more stress just keeping up with everything than I do now after filing for bankruptcy.

      Before: I was living a self indulgent lifestyle. If I wanted something I would spend the cash if I had it, or charge it if I didn't. (ex. I paid $3,500 cash for two dogs one year, a Welsh Terrier and an English Bulldog)

      After: No cash - no get. I love my dogs, but I can't help thinking about what that money could do now!

      So now I have a much better sense of the value of money. I track my money much more carefully in terms of how it's spent. I buy store brands on things like sugar and bread, etc. Funny how the sugar doesn't taste any sweeter just cuz you pay more for it.

      I look for sales, clip coupons, buy in bulk, wear it out before replacing it, make sure that things are maintained to avoid repair bills, really watch the non essential expenses like cell phones and cable tv, cook at home more often.

      The biggest change has really been to curb the impulsive purchases. I found I was buying some relatively expensive items, only to see them sold for pennies on the dollar at the next yard sale. Insane!
      Case Closed > 2/08/2010

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