Maybe when u went in front of the judge it was your 341 meeting and u just weren't aware that what was taking place ...Just a thought
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No, creditors are not required and more often than not, do not show up at the meeting.... which bears their name! (The 341a Meeting of the Creditors.)
Also, Judges are not allowed to attend or preside over a 341 meeting. The Trustee or his/her designate runs the meeting.Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
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that tells me i wasnt at a 341 meeting then, I attended only one meeting where a judges ask some questions. Any ideas about why the "chapter 13 plan" mailed to me by the trustee only had the IRS on it and didnt list any other creditors? Why was there a 341 meeting if neither me or any creditors were there?
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Originally posted by joek View Postthat tells me i wasnt at a 341 meeting then, I attended only one meeting where a judges ask some questions.
Originally posted by joek View PostAny ideas about why the "chapter 13 plan" mailed to me by the trustee only had the IRS on it and didn't list any other creditors? Why was there a 341 meeting if neither me or any creditors were there?
If the "judge" asked you any of these questions... it wasn't the Judge. it was the U.S. Trustee, the Standing Trustee, or someone from their office:
- State your name and current address for the record.
- Please provide your picture ID and Social Security number card for review.
- Did you sign the petition, schedules, statements, and related documents and is the signature your own? Did you read the petition, schedules, statements, and related documents before you signed them?
If the questions were like that, you absolutely were in a 341 Meeting.Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
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Originally posted by joek View Postalmost postive it wasnt the trustee, the trustee is female and my judge is male. Attourney said it was the judge. Any ideas why there wasnt allowed or for that matter not disallowed creditors listed on my ch 13 that was mailed ot me
Anyhow, the only way to tell what claims are allowed, is to check your Claims Register on PACER (or CM/ECF). Also, your lawyer should have been keeping track of any claims that were filed. Your claims bar date may not yet have passed. Your lawyer should have updated you on any claims that came in, and worked with you to insure that they were accurate and/or legitimate..Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
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Originally posted by joek View Postthanks for being patient with me in trhe questions lol. When looking at pacer, what exactly do i need to look at to deteremine these creditors? i have looked over it and cant find "allowed" unsecured creditors, can you guide me thru it some, which topic to exacltly look under?
Now, as to whether they are "allowed" or not... that would have been your attorney and you sitting down and reviewing them to make sure they were accurate and legitimate. If you found discrepancies, you and your attorney would work on an Objection to Claim and file that with the Court.Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
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Originally posted by joek View Postwhat is cm/ecf on pacer
Just think of it as one system. We citizens use PACER... the lawyers and Court use CM/ECF. Its' the same system.Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
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ok i think you have clarified everything for me, the IRS will be paid off in january. Leaving 14 months on my 60 month plan. Originally it was going to take 60 months just to pay the IRS off. Since adjusted by the IRS, they will paid off early. I assume the remaining 16 will be used to pay unsecured creditors at the same rate of payment?
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Originally posted by joek View Postok i think you have clarified everything for me, the IRS will be paid off in january. Leaving 14 months on my 60 month plan. Originally it was going to take 60 months just to pay the IRS off. Since adjusted by the IRS, they will paid off early. I assume the remaining 16 will be used to pay unsecured creditors at the same rate of payment?Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
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