gifts and definition of family member

[DSIG]

As I was going through my old checking account statements I noticed that I wrote a check for $300 to my god-daughter back in April. I can view the cashed checks as part of my statement. I wrote on the check memo area 'Easter Gift', which is what it was. It was intended for Easter.

My follow-on question is that this check was not written out to a family member, by definition. My god-daughter is the person I baptized and rarely see since she is thousands of miles away. What does the bk code consider a family member? That section says charity and family members. It does not say charity, friends and family members.

I'm getting ready to file ch13 tomorrow and all the paperwork is ready to go. This is just a quick meeting to sign and file.

Should I just let this one go and if the trustee actually finds it in my May statement I can say I forgot to list it?

[LuciluS]

Hmmm I remember AngelinaCatHub saying something about having to pay back $5,000 they had given to their god-daughter in their Bankruptcy. He/She is a Moderator. Pm one of them and ask.

I would also ask your Attorney. He's your Friend....The Trustee is not

[AngelinaCatHub]

Hmmm I remember AngelinaCatHub saying something about having to pay back $5,000 they had given to their god-daughter in their Bankruptcy. He/She is a Moderator. Pm one of them and ask.

I would also ask your Attorney. He's your Friend....The Trustee is not

'Hub here and on the spot.

Yes, a god-daughter, or friend, or partner, or neighbor, or the favorite pizza delivery man are all insider payments. Anyone who is close to you is an insider. However, 5K and 300 bucks is a big difference. Also it has been a very long time ago (over 90 days) and is below $600. The OP has no problem. 'Hub

[DSIG]

Thank you Ms Angelina

[LuciluS]

Hey Hub:

Is an exhusband an Insider?? and we are talking about two checks of $500 a piece in Nov. & Dec. of last year. Filing 9/30/09.

Luci

[AngelinaCatHub]

Hey Hub:

Is an exhusband an Insider?? and we are talking about two checks of $500 a piece in Nov. & Dec. of last year. Filing 9/30/09.

Luci

First "Dsig" I am a Mr., AngelinaCat is my Mrs. she is the Mod not me. I stay away from that difficult stuff.

Luci, yes he could be. But it still does not cross the $600 line in one transaction. I don't know all the details, but a gift to an ex? Hey, my ex and I were better friends than when we got married. She's still a wonderful person in my eyes and the Mother of my two daughters. I just could not live with her and we were too mismatched for 23 years.

Mrs. C. and I have been together for 22. We too made the first step to divorce, marriage.

Give more info. It sounds like a "wobbler". 'Hub

[DSIG]

oh, I get it now....you and the Mrs tag team on the board and hub probably stands for hubby. Again, thanks for the quick reply

[AngelinaCat]

Hi DSIG, and yes, I like your avatar, and yes, I guess you can call 'Hub and I the 'tag team'. LOL

[DSIG]

oh hey thanks Angelina. I thought I was seeing two of you in this thread, and yes, it really is two! Good thing those avatars are different or else I would really do a double take. Do you each have your own PCs at least or do you have to wrestle each other to log in to the forum?

PS The avatar is a spoof...haha. But I am waiting for the Obamacard to come out. Maybe Obama will pre-approve me before I file

[AngelinaCatHub]

oh hey thanks Angelina. I thought I was seeing two of you in this thread, and yes, it really is two! Good thing those avatars are different or else I would really do a double take. Do you each have your own PCs at least or do you have to wrestle each other to log in to the forum?

PS The avatar is a spoof...haha. But I am waiting for the Obamacard to come out. Maybe Obama will pre-approve me before I file

Yes he will. But there are certain conditions: http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/...ves/017003.php


'Hub

[klandsb]

I have a question...My EX and I bought my daughter a car about 5 mths ago for $4000.. He paid the total $4000 with the verbal understanding that I would pay him $100 a mth for 20 mths to pay my share... I have made 5 pmts to him ..(found out you dont EVER want to owe him money, dont be late or he will be on your doorstep the 31s of the mth) ...I dont ever want him to find out I am filing BK... So how am I going to show him as a expense every mth or do u think its an insider pmt and will cause me problems. The car is in my name only because he couldnt take off work to go get it..

[eddiep]

He may need to hold off for a couple months until the bk is over. Do you have a lawyer or are you filing pro se?

[klandsb]

So we meet again .... I just retained a lawyer this week.... I wasnt sure whether to even mention it or not seeing as its kinda like a family member but really not... I mean I pay him by check so it will show up in my checking account. Maybe i will just start giving him cash every mth...

[eddiep]

Don't hold anything back from your lawyer. He is your only friend in this process. Well excepte four mee. If you don't want the trustee to haul your ex into court and take the money back from him (oh he would be mad then!!!) ask your lawyer what you should do. He should be able to advise you on the legal way to pay him back and I believe the majic number is $600 total to any person/creditor in the three months before filing. Just ask your lawyer first. I just had my 341 and I kid you not my trustee was as sharp as a tac! I'm sure they have seen every game there is, dont try to mess with him.

[klandsb]

Thanks so much for the good advise on the trustee... Honestly my ex is such a pain in the a** to owe money to that I really dont even want to mention the $100 a mth I am paying him...Like I told him if u were destitute & living under a bridge I would feel bad if I am running short this mth and my pmt was a few days late but he has so much money in the bank and no bills except the norm rent,food ,gas... WAL LA- that is why he has money because he doesnt spend it and gets an inheritance from his mother every 3 mths...