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I wonder where were all these people against dog fighting were when other dog fighting events were being held. It's not like MV started the whole dog fighting game.
I found it interesting how all the people against dog fighting all of sudden when Vick was called out were so against it. I wonder where were all these people when other dog fighting events were being held. It's not like MV started the whole dog fighting game.
I own a beautiful precious pitbull and trust me, I've been against dog fighting for a very long time.
No, he didn't start dog fighting; it's something that has been going on for many years. But I am happy as a lark that he is being made an example of.
I hope he rots in prison for torturing dogs......hate to say it, but I have NO use for Michael Vick or any animal abuser.
ETA: One of the reasons you saw people up in arms "all of a sudden" re Michael Vick is that we learned exactly what he did to those poor pitbulls, in GRAPHIC detail. Their torture and in some cases death was nothing short of sickening and disgusting!!!!
Filed Ch. 7 June 14, 2007
341 Meeting July 19, 2007
Discharged September 17, 2007
Closed September 17, 2007
My point is, I don't think it became an important issue until it involved a famous person.
So my question is, where are all these protesting against animal cruelty people now? I don't see anyone making people more aware or trying to send others to jail.
And before you even ask, yes I have dogs and my brother has pits. And I have never hurt anything in my life.
And as for torture and killing, anyone that has read up or been against dog fighting knows that the dogs do get tortured and some do die. The same happens with roosters.
My point is, I don't think it became an important issue until it involved a famous person.
So my question is, where are all these protesting against animal cruelty people now? I don't see anyone making people more aware or trying to send others to jail.
And before you even ask, yes I have dogs and my brother has pits. And I have never hurt anything in my life.
And as for torture and killing, anyone that has read up or been against dog fighting knows that the dogs do get tortured and some do die. The same happens with roosters.
Hey Cali, there's probably a lot you don't "see"....people quietly working in many ways to fight the dog fighting problem as well as the misconceptions about pitbulls in general. I do my part in every possible way.....but this isn't really the message board to get into all that.
I agree that "anyone that has read up" on dog fighting would know about the torture and killing. But that's just it....many people before the Vick case didn't know anything about it. So his case in the news, despite the horror, is in that way a GOOD thing. My motto on a few others boards I'm on is that "those pits did not die in vain." I truly believe that. I've read numerous cases come to light after the Vick case where dog fighting is being cracked down upon now more than ever. And that is just the beginning.
I agree with you about roosters in cock fighting. That's despicable as well.
Filed Ch. 7 June 14, 2007
341 Meeting July 19, 2007
Discharged September 17, 2007
Closed September 17, 2007
Hey Cali, there's probably a lot you don't "see"....people quietly working in many ways to fight the dog fighting problem as well as the misconceptions about pitbulls in general. I do my part in every possible way.....but this isn't really the message board to get into all that.
I agree that "anyone that has read up" on dog fighting would know about the torture and killing. But that's just it....many people before the Vick case didn't know anything about it. So his case in the news, despite the horror, is in that way a GOOD thing. My motto on a few others boards I'm on is that "those pits did not die in vain." I truly believe that. I've read numerous cases come to light after the Vick case where dog fighting is being cracked down upon now more than ever. And that is just the beginning.
I agree with you about roosters in cock fighting. That's despicable as well.
What he did is horrible and if nothing else maybe he brought too everyone attention what dog fighting is about. They made an example of him and that's fine with me. It's not like he needed the money if his dog won, what he did was pure animal cruelty, and 23 months doesn't seem like long for being a completely horrible human being, hopefully he will never own another animal he can torture.
Now he has nothing, which is funny when you think about. He got what he deserved, I only wish they could put him in an arena with his hands tied behind his back and he feet tied and let him try going one on one with an angry dog his size, then he would have served a fair sentence, but I guess the only satisfaction we can all get from this atleast when he gets out he'll be broke!!!
No I am not evil, nor do I condone violence in anyway, but I am an avid pet lover with 3 precious dogs and it breaks my heart when anyone is cruel to an animal.
Filed Chapter 7 June 4 ~ 341 July 20 ~Last day of objections Sept 18~Discharged/Closed Sept 21
But seriously, it makes me sick to find out about someone being cruel to animals. I have a dog I rescued from the shelter and she is very sweet and loyal. I love the unconditional love my dog gives me.
Just think, I live in the only stupid state that still allows cock fighting. That is so back woods. Why someone would want to see that is beyond me.
Filed Chapter 7 (Primarily Business Expenses) 04/10/2008 FICO 468 :cry:
341 on 05/06/08:unsure:House appraisal on day 63:blink: 07/10/2008 Discharged-Asset Case!!!:yahoo:08/09 Transu 559, Equifax 636, Experian 647
Case Closed 07/15/2009 :D:yahoo:
My problem with Michael Vick is that he has a pattern of being just a horrible human being. The dog thing is just the tip of the iceberg. He was given a gift and an opportunity. The gift of being an unbelievable athlete and the opportunity for wealth, fame and the opportunity to become a role model for a generation of kids. He has generally done nothing but make bad decisions and my gut tells me he isn't even repentant, sure he's sorry he got caught but does he truly weep for those animals that died a most cruel death?
Instead of bankrolling the torture of dogs and providing livelihood for local drug dealers, he could have helped save so many families in despair, turned kids around who were starting down the wrong path.
In three years, he had made more money than I possibly ever will and now we are in the same boat.........go figure.
Vick and most celebs have the same problem everyday Americans have. They spend more than they make. Most of them are overextended to the point that any financial emergency that leads to a prolonged change would send them into bankruptcy whether it be loss of job, medical conditions etc.
It is what plagues our nation and I'm as much as guilty as anyone else. The I got to have it now syndrome. Or as Dave Ramsey calls it stuffitis. We all have to learn to do better managing our finances and avoid debt much like those who lived through the Great Depression learned.
May 31st, 2007: Petition Filed by my lawyer
July 2nd, 2007: 341 Meeting Held
September 4th, 2007: Discharged and Closed.
JRScott: The USA is a consumer society, not a saving society. It's all about capitalism. Why do you suppose the $600 economic stimulus was sent to Americans to spend and not save. $ In God We Trust.
I think some of these celebrities are crazy and don't think straight after a while. Animals as pets are innocent and are to be protected and cared for properly. That means good training and responding to their needs as dogs first then pets.
I live in a condo and there is a pit-bull living here (not how insurance allows it) but she is a gorgeous chocolate dog who is very friendly. Too bad others have ruined the breed.
Last edited by Flowers; 07-10-2008, 06:33 AM.
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Much thanks for all the support and information I receive on this forum.
Chapter 7 filed 11/21/2008
341 Meeting 01/05/2009
Discharged 03/06/2009
When famous people are involved, such issues are hyper-heightened. Once the verdict has been handed down (appropriately in this case), it's back to low-key or no news concerning dog-fighting.
Vick is doing what too many people in this country are doing secretly. None of them are/were multi-million dollar sports celebrities.
Filed: April 2009
341 Meeting: April 28, 2009
Discharge: July 1, 2009
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