I don't know where to start :(

[Run]

I hate how many of these threads we see. It's not your fault, but you aren't supposed to know that. Our society breeds these perfect little consumers, it is supposed to work that way. Some don't quite become the perfect consumer on the one side, they pay off any debt before interest or fees accrue. The credit industry likes them the least (so what do you think our society pushes for?) Then there are people like us that try our best and give all the milk we can but there is never enough so we end up barren and bankrupt. The credit industry, believe it or not likes us best (that's why they create so many of us)! Oh sure we default and file bankruptcy, but on the whole we pay their bills. Relax! You were never meant to win in this game. They will write off your losses on their balance sheets and bank it either way.

What they do is immoral, what you do is your life and while they have no incentive to treat you virtuously (and believe me they don't), you have no incentive to ruin your own life. What is immoral about doing your best? Certainly life isn't about always winning!

These are the things that we do so that we can live, we don't live to do these things. The important things are family and friends, the rest comes out in the wash! We do our best, but you can't wear the same white shirt for a week without washing it, just isn't going to happen. Don't be depressed by the wash, it is a part of life.

Ask those of us that have been through it, it's rejuvenating!!! Best cure you'll ever find for depression is watching your bankruptcy close on Pacer and knowing that you still have everything that is really important to you, and it hasn't been compromised!!!

Keep your priorities in the right place, first your health, then that of your families, don't confuse your priorities just because someone else's are different. Keep them right and everything else will come out in the wash.

[marcie26]

I hate how many of these threads we see. It's not your fault, but you aren't supposed to know that. Our society breeds these perfect little consumers, it is supposed to work that way. Some don't quite become the perfect consumer on the one side, they pay off any debt before interest or fees accrue. The credit industry likes them the least (so what do you think our society pushes for?) Then there are people like us that try our best and give all the milk we can but there is never enough so we end up barren and bankrupt. The credit industry, believe it or not likes us best (that's why they create so many of us)! Oh sure we default and file bankruptcy, but on the whole we pay their bills. Relax! You were never meant to win in this game. They will write off your losses on their balance sheets and bank it either way.

What they do is immoral, what you do is your life and while they have no incentive to treat you virtuously (and believe me they don't), you have no incentive to ruin your own life. What is immoral about doing your best? Certainly life isn't about always winning!

These are the things that we do so that we can live, we don't live to do these things. The important things are family and friends, the rest comes out in the wash! We do our best, but you can't wear the same white shirt for a week without washing it, just isn't going to happen. Don't be depressed by the wash, it is a part of life.

Ask those of us that have been through it, it's rejuvenating!!! Best cure you'll ever find for depression is watching your bankruptcy close on Pacer and knowing that you still have everything that is really important to you, and it hasn't been compromised!!!

Keep your priorities in the right place, first your health, then that of your families, don't confuse your priorities just because someone else's are different. Keep them right and everything else will come out in the wash.

That was beautifully written Run - someday I hope to work up the courage and show it to DH, but he would be so ticked off that I am sharing ANY of our personal information (of course, I think he would rather I share to strangers than to people we know)

[Run]

I would recommend showing him the evidence that what I said is true from other sources. Here is something you could show him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_wages

Perhaps something on wage slavery:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery

Then perhaps something on population control:
population action

Then perhaps illegal immigration:
Telegraph

And then quote Alan Greenspan regarding illegal immigration and it's intent:

"We ought to be opening up our borders to skilled labor from all parts of the world because if we were to do that we would increase the supply of skilled workers that our schools have been unable to create and as a consequence of that we would lower the average wage of skills and reduce the degree of income inequality in this country."

HUFPOST
So yeah, he's for income equality. By LOWERING wages to be equal!!!

Another:
Think

You may have already seen this wonderful exchange between a woman named Mary Mornin and George Bush on his "Let's Destroy Social Security Tour":

MS. MORNIN: Okay, I'm a divorced, single [57 year-old] mother with three grown, adult children. I have one child, Robbie, who is mentally challenged, and I have two daughters.

THE PRESIDENT: Fantastic. First of all, you've got the hardest job in
America, being a single mom...

MS. MORNIN: I work three jobs and I feel like I contribute.

THE PRESIDENT: You work three jobs?

MS. MORNIN: Three jobs, yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that
you're doing that. (Applause.) Get any sleep? (Laughter.)

MS. MORNIN: Not much. Not much.

Tiny revolution

I think replacing feelings of guilt with well directed feelings of anger can be therapeutic when one is able to see the whole picture for what it is. I would love to see a running topic here that enables more people to see the true nature of the games being played in our society.

[Run]

So to review, They want us to starve and die so that we don't over populate and use up too many resources. They want globalization to lower their costs of production by pulling all down to the same low standard rather than bringing us up together. They think it's great when we have to work three jobs just to survive! And then to add insult to injury, we are made to feel guilty and "surplus" for not keeping pace with our masters!

Watch the bailouts going on right now. Notice how big the bailouts are for the bankers whilst we get $600 to pay towards our massive debts! Notice they cut the plan to increase food stamps.

And who should feel guilty? Perhaps our government that has entered into phenomenal debt on our behalf!

David Walker is the U.S. comptroller, it is a non political office so he is free to tell the truth and not fear repercussions.

Listen to what he says about who is to blame for your debt:
On Glenn Beck

Or read it at the Denver Post:

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7344870?source=rssdp