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    Lawyer still doesn't think we should file...wdyt?

    My lawyer is not a primarily BK lawyer and he seems to think that the best course of action is to go to court and settle each of our debts individually as we are sued. I think this is ridiculous. As of right now, we have less than $2k/month in income for a family of four to live on. There is no extra money to settle these debts. He seems to think stringing things out 2-3 years in court is a better option and will keep BK off our financial record. Well, we are already in default on most of cards and on our car. We have well over $45k in unsecured debt and then about $60k in student loan debt and only make about $25k/year with my husband having to take a job that pays much less after being laid off. Hopefully, my husband will get a promotion soon but that still leaves us at only $35k a year in his field.

    He seems to think we could settle the one debt for Citibank and since none of the others are suing, we will be fine for a while. Does this sound dumb to you, because I don't think it's realistic that after a year of not being able to pay CC payments, we will be able to catch up or be able to scrounge up the money every couple of months to settle in court.

    And for what it's worth, when we did credit counseling the lawyer we saw said hands down we were making the right decision for us. He said he wouldn't even advise us to take another course of action.

    #2
    Find a new lawyer. Settling the debts you guys could still end up owing taxes on the forgiven debt, unless you can get an exemption.

    Sounds like BK may be your best option, either way you are going to have messed up credit.
    Filed: July 31, 2009
    341: September 4, 2009
    60 days: November 3, 2009
    DISCHARGED!: November 6, 2009

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      #3
      Originally posted by mama2three View Post
      Find a new lawyer.
      believe me this has occurred to me. Unfortunately, we can't afford to pay another lawyer's fees.

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        #4
        Originally posted by hormonal View Post
        believe me this has occurred to me. Unfortunately, we can't afford to pay another lawyer's fees.
        So you have already paid for the BK, and this lawyer don't want to file them now?

        Sorry if I misunderstand, but I am confused.
        8-07-09-filed Chapter 7
        11-18-09-DISCHARGED!!

        Life is not what challenges you face, but how you face those challenges.

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          #5
          Originally posted by hormonal View Post
          believe me this has occurred to me. Unfortunately, we can't afford to pay another lawyer's fees.
          If you already paid for his/her services to file a bankrtupcy on your behalf, and they are refusing to do so, then they should refund your fee.

          Did you pay them specifically to file a BK on your behalf? Or is it a general representation situation
          Filed: July 31, 2009
          341: September 4, 2009
          60 days: November 3, 2009
          DISCHARGED!: November 6, 2009

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            #6
            Originally posted by NoMoreCards View Post
            So you have already paid for the BK, and this lawyer don't want to file them now?

            Sorry if I misunderstand, but I am confused.
            I agree. I still consider myself a total newbie, BUT if you paid him to represent you as a bankruptcy attorney and now doesn't want you to file....

            ????

            Seems he should be giving you your money back or something...

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              #7
              I'm on board with others where. If you can't afford to retain another lawyer implies that you retained this one. If he's not primarily a BK attorney what is he??? It sounds like he may have another agenda. I would point blank tell him either represent me or give me my money back!

              You said you saw a different lawyer at the time of you credit counseling. Where is he now?

              One thing to keep in mind even though you file BK, it's not going to change your income. If you still have low income regardless of what happens. I think extra part time jobs are in either yours or your significant others future.
              Chapter 7 filed December 11, 2009, 341 Meeting held on January 7, 2010
              Deadline to File a Complaint: March 8, 2010

              Discharged and Closed March 11, 2010

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                #8
                Originally posted by hormonal View Post
                He seems to think stringing things out 2-3 years in court is a better option and will keep BK off our financial record.
                And will keep him on your payroll too. Find a new lawyer.....
                All information contained in this post is for informational and amusement purposes only.
                Bankruptcy is a process, not an event.......

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                  #9
                  Filed CH7 Feb 12 2010
                  341 March 18
                  Discharged...May 18
                  Awaiting closing...

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                    #10
                    If your attorney is encouraging you to buck BK, he isn't representing your best interests (provided details aren't missing from your scenario). Like you, I find his plan of battling creditors for 2-3 years flawed, unrealistic, and ridiculous. There are too many factors that aren't concrete. You are not guaranteed settlements for lesser, manageable amounts. You may be subjected to garnishment (contingent upon your location), bank levies, and forgiven debt tax consequences. Regular court appearances may adversely affect employment status. Plus, you don't have assurance your creditors will foster elementary school principles and kindly take turns. Lest we not forget about the emotional and motivational repercussions.

                    BK is definitive. I'd opt out of the 2-3 year creditor battle and spend my time rebuilding credit and regaining strength.
                    *Filed: September 23, 2009 *341: November 4, 2009 *Discharged: January 4, 2010 *Closed: January 20, 2010

                    Hakuna Matata...it means NO WORRIES!

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                      #11
                      You need to see an attorney that specializes in BK. They normally give free consultations.
                      4/09 Converted to a Ch 7 due to loss in dh's income
                      5/09 UST now involved no idea what happens next
                      7/09 UST has decided to withdraw his motion to dismiss!
                      7/27/09 DISCHARGED!!!

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                        #12
                        I wonder how much your attorney plans to bill you for each of the subsequent lawsuits.
                        Well, I did. Every one of 'em. Mostly I remember the last one. The wild finish. A guy standing on a station platform in the rain with a comical look in his face because his insides have been kicked out. -Rick

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by hormonal View Post
                          My lawyer is not a primarily BK lawyer and he seems to think that the best course of action is to go to court and settle each of our debts individually as we are sued. I think this is ridiculous. As of right now, we have less than $2k/month in income for a family of four to live on. There is no extra money to settle these debts. He seems to think stringing things out 2-3 years in court is a better option and will keep BK off our financial record. Well, we are already in default on most of cards and on our car. We have well over $45k in unsecured debt and then about $60k in student loan debt and only make about $25k/year with my husband having to take a job that pays much less after being laid off. Hopefully, my husband will get a promotion soon but that still leaves us at only $35k a year in his field.

                          He seems to think we could settle the one debt for Citibank and since none of the others are suing, we will be fine for a while. Does this sound dumb to you, because I don't think it's realistic that after a year of not being able to pay CC payments, we will be able to catch up or be able to scrounge up the money every couple of months to settle in court.

                          And for what it's worth, when we did credit counseling the lawyer we saw said hands down we were making the right decision for us. He said he wouldn't even advise us to take another course of action.
                          Some very appropriate light reading.
                          No Asset 7 closed 11/09

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                            #14
                            this attorney probably took money for a consultation, which is free with practically all other attorneys. then he is suggesting that you literally waste the next 2-3 years of your life either battling in court or worrying about battling in court. the stress will be 10 times what you already might imagine it to be. and it certainly will affect your employment both because you'll have to miss work to go to court and because you will not be as productive due to worrying all the time.

                            don't do it.

                            try to get the money back from this lawyer. if not, it might be in your best interest to go pro se. or given your very low income, you might qualify for legal aid (go talk to them before you get a promotion).
                            filed ch7 May 09
                            341 june 09
                            discharged, closed Aug 09

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                              #15
                              If your situation is reasonably straightforward and simple, I suggest studying the boards here on the forum, investing in the NoloPress Chapter 7 book, and filing yourself. There are many members here who have successfully filed--and survived--their Chapter 7s and Chapter 13s.

                              Good luck!
                              "To go bravely forward is to invite a miracle."

                              "Worry is the darkroom where negatives are formed."

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