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    Retain and Pay

    Found this, wondered whether it might have ramifications outside of the circuit..


    “Retain and Pay” Rejected by Appeals Court; Reaffirmation Agreements Likely Required by New Ruling

    No notice is required before a bank repossesses your motor vehicle after a chapter 7 bankruptcy, unless you formally reaffirm the vehicle loan, according to a recent federal appeals court decision. This case casts doubt on the “option” of “retain and pay,” where the debtor simply continues payments on a vehicle loan after filing chapter 7, without siging or filing a reaffirmation agreement with the bankruptcy court.

    In re Jones, No. 08-2177 (4th Cir. Jan. 11, 2010), involved a West Virginia debtor who filed chapter 7 in 2006 having a vehicle loan owed to Daimler Chrysler. The debtor did not sign a reaffirmation agreement regarding his vehicle, and his Statement of Intentions simply stated he would “continue payments.” Daimler Chrysler obtained an order lifting the bankruptcy stay based upon the vehicle installment contract’s ipso facto clause (also known as a bankruptcy clause). This clause stated that the loan would automatically be in default upon the filing of a bankruptcy.

    Shortly after obtaining the lift stay order, Daimler Chrysler repossessed the vehicle, even though the debtor had made one payment after the bankruptcy filing, by electronic means, which Daimler Chrysler had accepted. The debtor then sued Daimler Chrysler in bankruptcy court, claiming that West Virginia law required official notice to him prior to repossession, and claiming that formal reaffirmation agreements were not required under the 2005 Bankruptcy Reform Act.

    The U.S. Court of Appeals, Fourth Circuit, reversed the lower courts, which had sided with the debtor. The appeals court held that “retain and pay” was not allowed under the 2005 Bankruptcy Reform Act, except by consent of the lender. Because no reaffirmation agreement had been filed, Daimler Chrysler was free to repossess the vehicle once 45 days had elapsed from the section 341(a) meeting of creditors.

    The appeals court also held that Daimler Chrysler was not required to notify the debtor of his right to cure the default on the loan (which consisted of the act of filing for bankruptcy) under West Virginia law, prior to repossession, because the default was not capable of being cured. As such, requiring Daimler Chrysler to notify the debtor of such a “right” would be “absurd” and would serve no purpose.

    The appeals court also rejected the debtor’s argument that Daimler Chrysler had accepted his intention to “retain and pay” through its receipt of his single electronic payment; this was ambiguous at best and the court refused to find that Daimler Chrysler’s action was evidence of its acceptance of “retain and pay.”

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    I don't see anything wrong with this ruling. It does NOT AFFECT the so-called "ride-through" (or retain and pay) for real property. The BAPCPA amendments clearly read that personal property must be reaffirmed, redeemed, surrendered. This doesn't apply to real property... so real estate should be good to go.

    I'm not so excited about this ruling.
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    Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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      #3
      Agreed. If this pertained to real estate, that'd be HUGE news. Automobiles are definitely a different beast IMO. I did not have to deal with a reaff for a vehicle. If I had to deal with this situation, I'd either surrender or sign a legal reaff. Usually, you surrender because vehicles depreciate so fast and most people are probably upside down on them because of this.
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