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    Pacer- How do I look to see when a case closes ?

    I want to see if my district closes no asset 7's at the same time as discharge. How do I look up and see if this is going on ?
    thanks
    Southern District of Florida
    Filed Ch 7 - 8/6/09 341 - 9/14/09
    Report of No Distribution - 9/18/09
    DISCHARGE ! 11/23/09 Closed 12/8/09

    #2
    That would be a very expensive query. You may want to just call the Clerk's office and ask if they autoclose Chapter 7 cases!

    Make sure you ask them this as a "procedural" question. For example, "hello, this is John Doe. I have a procedural question. Does this District autoclose no-asset Chapter 7 cases upon discharge?".
    Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
    Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
    Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

    Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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      #3
      thank you...I was hoping for a way to do it without doing it the expensive way. Looks like a phone call is in order tomorrow.
      Southern District of Florida
      Filed Ch 7 - 8/6/09 341 - 9/14/09
      Report of No Distribution - 9/18/09
      DISCHARGE ! 11/23/09 Closed 12/8/09

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        #4
        I did a quick look at the available flags for FLSB (your District). To me it looks like if none of the "do not close" flags are set (AUDITNOCLOSE, IneligClose, NOCLOSE) and/or "do not discharge" flags are set (IneligDisch, NODISCH, NoAutoDisch, SPLITDND, SPLITRVK, WVDSCDB, WVDSCJDB)... then it should auto discharge and possibly auto close.

        Why not just check your flags on PACER and see if any of the above flags are there?
        Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
        Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
        Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

        Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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          #5
          actually I went back and looked at cases I had saved that I used for research. I went on pacer and did the free query, the one if you have a case number already and looked at about 5 cases and they give a file date, last filing date, discharge date and a termination date.

          Is the closed date the same as termination date?

          If so it seems that my district does not auto close. There are termination dates anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months after the discharge date.
          Southern District of Florida
          Filed Ch 7 - 8/6/09 341 - 9/14/09
          Report of No Distribution - 9/18/09
          DISCHARGE ! 11/23/09 Closed 12/8/09

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            #6
            Originally posted by justbroke View Post
            I did a quick look at the available flags for FLSB (your District). To me it looks like if none of the "do not close" flags are set (AUDITNOCLOSE, IneligClose, NOCLOSE) and/or "do not discharge" flags are set (IneligDisch, NODISCH, NoAutoDisch, SPLITDND, SPLITRVK, WVDSCDB, WVDSCJDB)... then it should auto discharge and possibly auto close.

            Why not just check your flags on PACER and see if any of the above flags are there?
            I am going to go look....thx
            Southern District of Florida
            Filed Ch 7 - 8/6/09 341 - 9/14/09
            Report of No Distribution - 9/18/09
            DISCHARGE ! 11/23/09 Closed 12/8/09

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              #7
              Ok, here is what I see.

              On my case it shows :
              Nature of debt: consumer
              Pending status: Awaiting Discharge

              On another random no asset 7 case that I looked up it shows:
              Nature of debt: consumer
              Pending status: Case Closed
              Flags: CLOSED

              It doesn't have an area for Flags on my case. I assume that means they have not flagged my case for any special treatment and I will proceed as the court normally proceeds which LooKs like discharge and closing do not come at the same time automatically.
              Southern District of Florida
              Filed Ch 7 - 8/6/09 341 - 9/14/09
              Report of No Distribution - 9/18/09
              DISCHARGE ! 11/23/09 Closed 12/8/09

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                #8
                In my area the case isnt closed until the trustee recieves a copy of the tax return for the year in which you file...guess they want to make sure you dont get a refund that they can take....
                Filed C7 9-14-09
                341 Meeting 10-26-09
                Last day for Objections 12-28-09
                Discharged 1-4-10

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