The debtmonster finally had the 341 yesterday! Making you proud!!

[mom2three09]

I am assuming you don't have lojack or something in the bmw. Most higher end cars have something like lojack installed from the factory.

EEK! Debtmonster, you might want to run out and make sure that bmw is still in your driveway

ETA: It seems that BMW's 2007 and newer automatically come with BMW Assist. I would think they could easily track the cars where abouts via this system EEK!

[debtmonster]

Maybe I'm confused but I thought you previously stated your attorney could ensure you could keep your car, not have to give it back and that he has done that lots of times for clients...and that that was one of the reasons why you switched attorneys...Now all of a sudden your attorney kept "one" client in his car for a very long time and now all of a sudden it's due to "different circumstances." What caused the massive change/turnaround here and all the misinformation?

You are mixing up what I said. I switched attorneys because after I gave that other attorney the money, she was more. The total for her was $4500. The total for the new attorney was $3000. The old attorney gave me most of my money back and I used it. The old attorney told me she was swamped and it would take at least 2 months before she would get time to file my paperwork. This new attorney did it lickity split. He just happened to tell me not to worry about the car. The previous attorney told me to give the car back right away. The new one said to keep it and keep driving it and he offered to fight for me to keep it as long as possible.

I told all of you this and then you all came down on me saying that I will have to give the car back. So let's assume you're right. Why am I not permitted to have a contingency plan? And then I have to get grilled here for telling people about having a contingency plan.

All I can do is hope for the best. If this attorney can keep me in my car for a long time after discharge, that will save me a ton.

I am tired of this playing by ear crap. I just wish I knew the future and had all of the facts.

[hereforinfo]

I think I can pretty much predict your future.

[music12]

I think I can pretty much predict your future.

fortune teller! please predict mine too!

[OhioFiler]

i think i can pretty much predict your future.

[debtmonster]

I think I can pretty much predict your future.

Great! Then tell me the exact date I will actually be required to give my cars back.

Also... what happens if you refuse to give your cars back after the bankruptcy? Has anyone ever done that? Let's say they called you to pick them up and you simply never called them. They can't sue you, right? Because you just went bankrupt on them.

[justbroke]

Also... what happens if you refuse to give your cars back after the bankruptcy? Has anyone ever done that? Let's say they called you to pick them up and you simply never called them. They can't sue you, right? Because you just went bankrupt on them.

I haven't done that, but it goes a little like this.

If your case isn't closed, they can file a Motion to Compel Turnover of Property and then you'd be in Contempt of Court if you choose not to follow the order. I don't believe they could re-open a closed case to pursue it in the Bankruptcy Court. They can go to State/local court and get an Order of Replevin to compel turnover.

Suffice it to say that at some point, they will seek a remedy by asking some court of competent jurisdiction, to compel you to turn it over, or face sanctions for contempt.

[hereforinfo]

Also... what happens if you refuse to give your cars back after the bankruptcy? Has anyone ever done that? Let's say they called you to pick them up and you simply never called them. They can't sue you, right? Because you just went bankrupt on them.

Why don't you try it and find out, then come back and let us know by posting from your cell in the county jail?

[Mi Bankruptcy]

Why don't you try it and find out, then come back and let us know by posting from your cell in the county jail?

What a negative person!!!

[debtmonster]

What a negative person!!!

Okay, I'll try to push them to the limit. You have to think positive. At least while you're in jail, you get free room and board and get to make new friends.

[OhioFiler]

Okay, I'll try to push them to the limit. You have to think positive. At least while you're in jail, you get free room and board and get to make new friends.

Or reacquaint yourself with some old friends there DM!

[debtmonster]

Or reacquaint yourself with some old friends there DM!

I don't know anyone in person who has ever been to jail.

But it sounds like it could be fun just as long as everything is free while you're there.

[ForumReader]

Chill, chill, DM and Ohiofiler maybe you two could carry on through PM?

[Mi Bankruptcy]

Okay, I'll try to push them to the limit. You have to think positive. At least while you're in jail, you get free room and board and get to make new friends.

LOL.. I don't see a problem with that.. In Detroit, they are releasing prisoners who go back out and commit crimes upon leaving the jail because they don't want to be homeless.

[hereforinfo]

Chill, chill, DM and Ohiofiler maybe you two could carry on through PM?

Nooooo! Why should the rest of us be denied the entertainment?