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    #76
    Most MLM's are a waste and only a few people ever succeed at them. If I were to look at the MLM pyramid as half-full, most would accuse me of being half-blind.

    MLM's are really not a successful business model and anyone who purchases product from these games is paying way more than they should.

    Most people who become MLMers do so primarily so they can get their own products at a discount. They rarely sell anything.
    Well, I did. Every one of 'em. Mostly I remember the last one. The wild finish. A guy standing on a station platform in the rain with a comical look in his face because his insides have been kicked out. -Rick

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      #77
      MLM's are mostly hated because they are very hard. Most of the products are top quality, which makes them expensive compared to what you'll find in Walmart or Target, which makes them harder to sell. Since they are hard to sell, the people who get involved in the MLM's and quit shortly after and then they hate MLM's because they couldn't succeed.

      What about Cash Gifting? Has anyone joined up in those programs? I've seen a lot of people making good money with those. Go to youtube.com and type in cash gifting and you'll see a ton of people on there raking it in without having to sell anything. You just give them your cash. It's like what religious people to when they watch those Jesus channels and give their money with expecting nothing in return. Talk about a great business!

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        #78
        Originally posted by debtmonster View Post
        MLM's are mostly hated because they are very hard. Most of the products are top quality, which makes them expensive compared to what you'll find in Walmart or Target, which makes them harder to sell. Since they are hard to sell, the people who get involved in the MLM's and quit shortly after and then they hate MLM's because they couldn't succeed.

        What about Cash Gifting? Has anyone joined up in those programs? I've seen a lot of people making good money with those. Go to youtube.com and type in cash gifting and you'll see a ton of people on there raking it in without having to sell anything. You just give them your cash. It's like what religious people to when they watch those Jesus channels and give their money with expecting nothing in return. Talk about a great business!
        Cash gifting is a pyramid scheme and is ILLEGAL. http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/cons...ts/alt056.shtm

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          #79
          Originally posted by debtmonster View Post
          MLM's are mostly hated because they are very hard. Most of the products are top quality, which makes them expensive compared to what you'll find in Walmart or Target, which makes them harder to sell. Since they are hard to sell, the people who get involved in the MLM's and quit shortly after and then they hate MLM's because they couldn't succeed.

          What about Cash Gifting? Has anyone joined up in those programs? I've seen a lot of people making good money with those. Go to youtube.com and type in cash gifting and you'll see a ton of people on there raking it in without having to sell anything. You just give them your cash. It's like what religious people to when they watch those Jesus channels and give their money with expecting nothing in return. Talk about a great business!
          If Amway's all purpose cleaner was superior to the stuff at Target, someone would have copied their recipe and sold it in Target. MLM stuff is hard to sell because it isn't worth what one must pay for it. Nobody ever buys anything unless they feel it is worth at least as much if not more than the selling price. MLMers succeed not with superior products but with high pressure sales tactics and overblown product descriptions. Xango cures everything and they have testimonials to prove it!

          Why don't you try cash gifting and report back to all of us how successful it is? Sounds awesome!
          Well, I did. Every one of 'em. Mostly I remember the last one. The wild finish. A guy standing on a station platform in the rain with a comical look in his face because his insides have been kicked out. -Rick

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            #80


            If it's illegal, then sites like this should be shut down. Why are they all over the place then? Try selling marijuana or cocaine over the Internet and see how fast your site gets shut down.

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              #81
              Originally posted by debtmonster View Post
              http://www.megacashgifting.com/

              If it's illegal, then sites like this should be shut down. Why are they all over the place then? Try selling marijuana or cocaine over the Internet and see how fast your site gets shut down.
              You're right. Those jokers over at the Federal Trade Commission have no idea what they are talking about.

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                #82
                Originally posted by debtmonster View Post
                http://www.megacashgifting.com/

                If it's illegal, then sites like this should be shut down. Why are they all over the place then? Try selling marijuana or cocaine over the Internet and see how fast your site gets shut down.
                I always say. "if it's on the internet it must be legal!"
                Well, I did. Every one of 'em. Mostly I remember the last one. The wild finish. A guy standing on a station platform in the rain with a comical look in his face because his insides have been kicked out. -Rick

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                  #83
                  If the products were top quality, you wouldn't have to work so hard to sell them. They'd sell themselves and retail stores would want them on their shelves. The reason they are so expensive is because they have to pad the price to pay everyone in the line up the pyramid. People hate MLMs because they are annoying and require you to harass all your friends, family, neighbors, and acquaintances to buy shitty overpriced products.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by hereforinfo View Post
                    If the products were top quality, you wouldn't have to work so hard to sell them. They'd sell themselves and retail stores would want them on their shelves. The reason they are so expensive is because they have to pad the price to pay everyone in the line up the pyramid. People hate MLMs because they are annoying and require you to harass all your friends, family, neighbors, and acquaintances to buy shitty overpriced products.
                    Quality doesn't sell. Price does. Walmart and Target are absolute proof of that. Hyundai's and Kia's are more proof. The cheapest always sell the fastest.

                    That's why Sound Advice went out of business. They sell all the high end stuff compared to what you'd find at Walmart. Why wasn't the stuff selling itself?

                    Your logic is wrong. If MLM's were so bad, they would not exist. The companies would simply go out of business. Many have been here for 20-40 years. Apparently they are not bad or illegal or scams.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by debtmonster View Post
                      http://www.megacashgifting.com/

                      If it's illegal, then sites like this should be shut down. Why are they all over the place then? Try selling marijuana or cocaine over the Internet and see how fast your site gets shut down.
                      The fact that the websites are not shut down is not a good indicator to whether it is illegal or not.

                      I really hope you find some success in your MLM and I hope if you do not, you can find another job that you are happy with.

                      Have you considered consulting in whatever field you specialize in?

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                        #86


                        That one looks really cool! If I had the money, I'd try it. Remember, I'm not Mr. Negative. I'll give something a try before bashing it. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. So be it. But if it does, the rewards are worth it.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by debtmonster View Post
                          Quality doesn't sell. Price does. Walmart and Target are absolute proof of that. Hyundai's and Kia's are more proof. The cheapest always sell the fastest.

                          That's why Sound Advice went out of business. They sell all the high end stuff compared to what you'd find at Walmart. Why wasn't the stuff selling itself?

                          Your logic is wrong. If MLM's were so bad, they would not exist. The companies would simply go out of business. Many have been here for 20-40 years. Apparently they are not bad or illegal or scams.
                          Yes, but if they didn't have to pay so many people in the "upline" they could sell the product for a lot cheaper! Of course they continue to exist because the top tier people are making tons of money off of suckers. Just because something has been around for a long time doesn't make it less of a ripoff or less annoying.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by debtmonster View Post
                            Quality doesn't sell. Price does. Walmart and Target are absolute proof of that. Hyundai's and Kia's are more proof. The cheapest always sell the fastest.

                            That's why Sound Advice went out of business. They sell all the high end stuff compared to what you'd find at Walmart. Why wasn't the stuff selling itself?

                            Your logic is wrong. If MLM's were so bad, they would not exist. The companies would simply go out of business. Many have been here for 20-40 years. Apparently they are not bad or illegal or scams.
                            Absolutely false. You know nothing of selling. I sell a product that is often more expensive than what our competitors sell it for. The difference is we add more value. VALUE sells, not price. If the consumer feels the VALUE of the product is greater than the price it is worth buying.

                            Now, MSM's are successful because the good MSMers are able to fool (or guilt) the buyer into thinking the product's value exceeds it's price. This is often done with false testimonials, so-called free product and false hopes.
                            Well, I did. Every one of 'em. Mostly I remember the last one. The wild finish. A guy standing on a station platform in the rain with a comical look in his face because his insides have been kicked out. -Rick

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                              #89
                              The company I work for is the "Cadillac" of our product. Customers buy it because of brand, reputation and value. They know that they may spend more, but our products lasts longer, works better, and is backed by a solid solvent company. Our company stock price went up during the whole recession and stayed above $100 the whole time. That tells you something about value.

                              On the other side, I do believe that volume-driven business, like Wal*Mart, K*Mart, Target, all derive profits from pricing. But I think Kia/Hyundai are different and can't be compared to anything else. Wal*Mart is selling Kellogg cereal products at a discount. While Wal*Mart does sell Sam's or other brands, it's hard to compare Wal*Mart because they do sell some "quality" products within their walls. I'll go to Wal*Mart and I buy quality items (Clorox Bleach, Tide He, Bounty paper towels), but I won't buy their meats or any of their off-brand products. Why? I put a value on quality, price, contents, and taste. That's the value for me.
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                              Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by justbroke View Post
                                The company I work for is the "Cadillac" of our product. Customers buy it because of brand, reputation and value. They know that they may spend more, but our products lasts longer, works better, and is backed by a solid solvent company. Our company stock price went up during the whole recession and stayed above $100 the whole time. That tells you something about value.

                                On the other side, I do believe that volume-driven business, like Wal*Mart, K*Mart, Target, all derive profits from pricing. But I think Kia/Hyundai are different and can't be compared to anything else. Wal*Mart is selling Kellogg cereal products at a discount. While Wal*Mart does sell Sam's or other brands, it's hard to compare Wal*Mart because they do sell some "quality" products within their walls. I'll go to Wal*Mart and I buy quality items (Clorox Bleach, Tide He, Bounty paper towels), but I won't buy their meats or any of their off-brand products. Why? I put a value on quality, price, contents, and taste. That's the value for me.
                                Many of these off brand products are made by the same company making the quality items you use. Also. things like bleach are bleach regardless of the label and your whitey tighties will come out nice and clean. I'm disappointed there isn't an off-brand of He detergent available.

                                Wal-Mart does not derive profits from pricing. They derive profit by setting the selling price they are willing to pay the suppliers. Nobody wants to be shut out of the Wal-Mart market.
                                Well, I did. Every one of 'em. Mostly I remember the last one. The wild finish. A guy standing on a station platform in the rain with a comical look in his face because his insides have been kicked out. -Rick

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