I am at the beginning of the process and I must say that this Forum is what has given me the strength to look at the future and really work for a fresh start.
About a month ago we finally decided that it was the right business decision for us and stopped paying and/or in the process of stopping our CCs (never late/never missed).
We plan to retain an attorney in a couple of months and file in August/September, all things being as expected we will be under median, no-asset and able to retain business inventory through CA System 2 exemptions.
There are two topics that I see most people stressing the most: Calls and Audits.
I am 4-6 weeks late in 5 accounts (BofA [2], Advanta, Citi [2]).
Calls were coming in briskly, I decided to talk to each of one once. "Business is really bad, we have been customers a long time... I cannot make a payment... maybe in a month or two thing will get better"
They were nice and in the past few days there no calls, except the automatic robo-call at 8:02 this morning.
I know is going to get worse, but I fell that it can be helpful to let them know you are alive and going through some troubles.... I may change my mind in a few days?!?
As far as audits:
I have been reading here for a while and I know many have discharged huge amount of debts without an hiccup. While others have been under scrutiny.
It certainly make sense that if you are way over median, you will get additional scrutiny, but I don't think that high debt is much of a trigger.
My common sense says that the UST looks to recover money/assets and will look to pursue cases where he/she feels there may be something to dig up... I am not going to bring bad karma on me by under-estimating the possibility and I know it could cause a great deal of stress, but ultimately one must look at the bottom line. In other words: If you have no equity, no hidden assets, no insider payments, does it really matter?? I know I will be unable to produce some CC statements older than 6 months if asked, but I will be able to produce up to 10 years of bank statements and they can dig in there as much as they want... nothing to hide, just some bad decisions here and there.
About a month ago we finally decided that it was the right business decision for us and stopped paying and/or in the process of stopping our CCs (never late/never missed).
We plan to retain an attorney in a couple of months and file in August/September, all things being as expected we will be under median, no-asset and able to retain business inventory through CA System 2 exemptions.
There are two topics that I see most people stressing the most: Calls and Audits.
I am 4-6 weeks late in 5 accounts (BofA [2], Advanta, Citi [2]).
Calls were coming in briskly, I decided to talk to each of one once. "Business is really bad, we have been customers a long time... I cannot make a payment... maybe in a month or two thing will get better"
They were nice and in the past few days there no calls, except the automatic robo-call at 8:02 this morning.
I know is going to get worse, but I fell that it can be helpful to let them know you are alive and going through some troubles.... I may change my mind in a few days?!?
As far as audits:
I have been reading here for a while and I know many have discharged huge amount of debts without an hiccup. While others have been under scrutiny.
It certainly make sense that if you are way over median, you will get additional scrutiny, but I don't think that high debt is much of a trigger.
My common sense says that the UST looks to recover money/assets and will look to pursue cases where he/she feels there may be something to dig up... I am not going to bring bad karma on me by under-estimating the possibility and I know it could cause a great deal of stress, but ultimately one must look at the bottom line. In other words: If you have no equity, no hidden assets, no insider payments, does it really matter?? I know I will be unable to produce some CC statements older than 6 months if asked, but I will be able to produce up to 10 years of bank statements and they can dig in there as much as they want... nothing to hide, just some bad decisions here and there.
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