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    Unknown creditor - anyone know about these guys?

    Recovery Management Systems Corporation

    They requested notice and I have no clue who they are - did not see them on credit reports, nor have I gotten any correspondence from them. Should I be worried?
    Filed Ch 7 -- July 9, 2008
    341 mtg ---- August 14, 2008
    Discharged ---- October 17, 2008
    Closed --------- December 11, 2009!

    #2
    Google them, research them and I would definately contact them and find out what it is all about. Could be a scam. I see you are discharged and all sorts of things appear in the mail after that time.
    _________________________________________
    Filed 5 Year Chapter 13: April 2002
    Early Buy-Out: April 2006
    Discharge: August 2006

    "A credit card is a snake in your pocket"

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      #3
      They buy and/or are assignees of Bankruptcy Debt. You may see other names like B-Line, B-Real, eCast Settlement, LVNV Funding, TSYS, etc.

      All are trolls...
      Last edited by justbroke; 11-13-2008, 05:20 PM.
      Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
      Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
      Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

      Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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        #4
        They are a collection company GE money bank
        Chapter 7 07/30/2008
        341 09/17/2008
        Discharge 11/21/2008

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          #5
          I just noticed it on PACER and thought it strange. Is this something that can come back later, since they requested notice, they know my debts were discharged, right?
          Filed Ch 7 -- July 9, 2008
          341 mtg ---- August 14, 2008
          Discharged ---- October 17, 2008
          Closed --------- December 11, 2009!

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            #6
            I have an entry before my 341 that this place wants to be copied everything, Apparently I think GE money bank has sold my account to these ppl. I did google them, when I first seen them on pacer, they handle bk cases for their clients.

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              #7
              Originally posted by PoorGrammyinBK7 View Post
              I just noticed it on PACER and thought it strange. Is this something that can come back later, since they requested notice, they know my debts were discharged, right?
              You're discharged, but not closed. They just want noticing of anything which goes on in the case.

              Notices of Appearances are normal. It just allows a Creditor's Attorney (or representation) to receive all correspondence (orders, motions, pleadings, etc) in a case.
              Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
              Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
              Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

              Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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                #8
                Originally posted by justbroke View Post
                They buy and/or are assignees of Bankruptcy Debt. You may see other names like B-Line, B-Real, eCast Settlement, LVNV Funding, TSYS, etc.

                All are trolls...
                Why do companies like these buy the debt knowing they will only get pennies on the dollar for the debt? eCast Settlement bought one of my credit card accounts and Roundup Funding bought another, and they both filed a claim to be paid.
                Filed: 5/22/07; 341 Hearing: 6/27/07;
                Confirmed: 8/13/07; DISCHARGED 4/17/2012

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nicollette View Post
                  Why do companies like these buy the debt knowing they will only get pennies on the dollar for the debt? eCast Settlement bought one of my credit card accounts and Roundup Funding bought another, and they both filed a claim to be paid.
                  They gamble on the possibility that they may get paid. They buy the debt for mere pennies. Sometimes lower than 10% of the original debt.

                  Since you're in a Chapter 13, anything can happen, including a windfall for you or increase in salary, which increases how much they can get.

                  It's all a gamble to them... but they are making money, believe it or not.
                  Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
                  Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
                  Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

                  Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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                    #10
                    I had them as well and they are GE. We had a brandsmart card that was included.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by justbroke View Post

                      Since you're in a Chapter 13, anything can happen, including a windfall for you or increase in salary, which increases how much they can get.
                      Throughout the remainder of my plan, if my rate of pay stays the same, can any of these creditors object to the % they are getting paid when it gets close to discharge time?
                      Filed: 5/22/07; 341 Hearing: 6/27/07;
                      Confirmed: 8/13/07; DISCHARGED 4/17/2012

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nicollette View Post
                        Throughout the remainder of my plan, if my rate of pay stays the same, can any of these creditors object to the % they are getting paid when it gets close to discharge time?
                        Not on a confirmed plan. A confirmed plan is just that... the end of "objections". The only person who can really object now, is the Trustee, and that's only for a Motion to Dismiss or a Motion to Increase Plan Payments.
                        Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
                        Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
                        Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

                        Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by justbroke View Post
                          Not on a confirmed plan. A confirmed plan is just that... the end of "objections".
                          That's good to know
                          Filed: 5/22/07; 341 Hearing: 6/27/07;
                          Confirmed: 8/13/07; DISCHARGED 4/17/2012

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nicollette View Post
                            That's good to know
                            Well, there are some technical objections which can be done within 180-days of confirmation, but only for fraud.

                            Plan confirmation is considered res judicata or something already judicially decided.

                            The only thing you can do to a Confirmed Plan is Motion to Modify, or Motion to Dismiss the case, really.
                            Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
                            Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
                            Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

                            Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by justbroke View Post
                              Well, there are some technical objections which can be done within 180-days of confirmation, but only for fraud.

                              Plan confirmation is considered res judicata or something already judicially decided.

                              The only thing you can do to a Confirmed Plan is Motion to Modify, or Motion to Dismiss the case, really.
                              wow justbroke you are really getting into this stuff. i was reading your blog.
                              maybe you should go to law school.
                              Chapter 7 07/30/2008
                              341 09/17/2008
                              Discharge 11/21/2008

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