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    #16
    We have gone to every agency possible for relief. The FDLE (Florida Department of Law Enforcement) and unless it is a child, they just don’t want to be bothered with cyber stalking. It has become an obsession with this man, and his two business partners. There is no law enforcement in cyber land. As I said, if you wish to see our pictures ad nauseas, with every name in the book within, I will privately give out the URL in a PM. He has lost us three jobs. He has bribed the Mayor of this town. We have been accused of attempted murder, cutting brake lines, and about any thing you can think of and the police and sheriff just ignore it all as the feud is so well known to them they consider this man just a nut basket, not withstanding the mental anguish we have gone through.

    I should have walked away from it years ago, but as I said, you don’t realize how fast a snowball gathers importance as it rolls down the hill of time. I do not negate my stupidity of pride and with a cyber stalker, they do not want to be ignored. That was the mistake, but hind sight has now cost us our wealth and health.

    We now just ignore him and after his 180 million dollar AP for an alleged stolen email I just may allow him to have it. Any judge is going to ask how is he going to pay a judgment of 180 million when the same Judge just signed my C7?
    If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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      #17
      I would write a book and sell the movie rights

      This story could be turned into an interesting drama (granted, some dramatic license will be required to make it more suspensful, but still, it would be a away for you to get some money out of it )

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        #18
        They have a deposition scheduled for September. What would (could) happen if we just don't show up?
        "To go bravely forward is to invite a miracle."

        "Worry is the darkroom where negatives are formed."

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          #19
          Originally posted by HHM View Post
          I would write a book and sell the movie rights

          This story could be turned into an interesting drama (granted, some dramatic license will be required to make it more suspensful, but still, it would be a away for you to get some money out of it )
          The book would end up being a horror story. You have a point but right now, he is 'dogging my heels' and all we want is him to drop the idea that we are alive. That is what he wants to do, have us die. He has actually posted this and although I only read the place now and again, I get an idea of what prank he is about to pull next as he cannot keep his mouth shut. He thinks this is great fun and has told people who have relayed this back to us. Many in this town call him evil personafied. 'Hub
          If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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            #20
            Have you filed a motion to dismiss?

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              #21
              I would just as soon give him the Judgment as we are collection proof. He has no real desire to win a Court case, he wishes to bleed us for lawyer fees. We are not smart enough to go pro se but are doing so. We attempted to voice this at the AP hearing and I told the Judge then, "give it to him" and the Judge said it isn't that simple but just don't show up at the trial. I'm a bit nervious about not showing but to go there without a lawyer the adversay lawyer would put us through a wringer. It is not what truth is, it is how you warp meanings to the truth.
              If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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                #22
                Originally posted by HHM View Post
                Have you filed a motion to dismiss?
                Three of them all turned down as in the Bankruptcy Court it is looser than a civil Court.

                We now have filed for Summary Judgement. I don't care which way it goes. He is intending to make an action big enough to criminalize it and has stated this on his forum.
                If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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                  #23
                  good lord have you no rights? this is harrassive, it seems to me. surely you could write this up and ask for pro bono representation? there has to be a legal eagle out there somewhere that wants to make a name and if ever there was a case for it, you guys are it.

                  strings need pulling, a lawsuit needs filing regarding the harrassment you've suffered. if it were me i'd get a lawyer to work up a lawsuit against this jack@ss suing him for a dollar amount/hour of the time he has caused you suffering, the loss of wages, all of the legal fees, any medical bills he might have incurred (anxiety, stress, etc), and of course, defamation of character. even if you have to give everything you might win in that lawsuit to your pro bono lawyer and c7 creditors, it'd be worth it for him to realize that you don't have to be a big fish to play big, you just have to be fed the hell up and backed into a corner.

                  the only positive thing i can say regarding this guy is that he won't be able to bother you in heaven. he is going to have some karma to work out for a long long while. ward yourselves with positivity and light, and fight the darkness. man i would be in the corner with my back up like a hissing cat right now.

                  it just isn't right.
                  Filed 7/28/08, Discharged 10/29/08
                  (filed pro se: nonconsumer no asset CH7)

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by soleprop View Post
                    good lord have you no rights? this is harrassive, it seems to me. surely you could write this up and ask for pro bono representation? there has to be a legal eagle out there somewhere that wants to make a name and if ever there was a case for it, you guys are it.

                    strings need pulling, a lawsuit needs filing regarding the harrassment you've suffered. if it were me i'd get a lawyer to work up a lawsuit against this jack@ss suing him for a dollar amount/hour of the time he has caused you suffering, the loss of wages, all of the legal fees, any medical bills he might have incurred (anxiety, stress, etc), and of course, defamation of character. even if you have to give everything you might win in that lawsuit to your pro bono lawyer and c7 creditors, it'd be worth it for him to realize that you don't have to be a big fish to play big, you just have to be fed the hell up and backed into a corner.

                    the only positive thing i can say regarding this guy is that he won't be able to bother you in heaven. he is going to have some karma to work out for a long long while. ward yourselves with positivity and light, and fight the darkness. man i would be in the corner with my back up like a hissing cat right now.

                    it just isn't right.
                    You are right; we have no rights at all here. We attemped our own suit against him in 2005. The two attorneys working on it were green and eager to establish themselves and worked pro bono if we would pay the filing fees etc. Since this person posts anonymously you have to subpeona records and all that. We had that when the forum they owned was still located in the U.S., BUT then it became necessary to hire 'expert witnesses' who could identify this guy. After two attempts with two different experts ruling that they couldn't be sure, we gave up. Also now at this point, all our money was gone.

                    Since then this site has been moved to China, and here we are.
                    Last edited by AngelinaCat; 08-24-2008, 07:31 AM.
                    "To go bravely forward is to invite a miracle."

                    "Worry is the darkroom where negatives are formed."

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by soleprop View Post
                      good lord have you no rights? this is harrassive, it seems to me. surely you could write this up and ask for pro bono representation? there has to be a legal eagle out there somewhere that wants to make a name and if ever there was a case for it, you guys are it.

                      strings need pulling, a lawsuit needs filing regarding the harrassment you've suffered. if it were me i'd get a lawyer to work up a lawsuit against this jack@ss suing him for a dollar amount/hour of the time he has caused you suffering, the loss of wages, all of the legal fees, any medical bills he might have incurred (anxiety, stress, etc), and of course, defamation of character. even if you have to give everything you might win in that lawsuit to your pro bono lawyer and c7 creditors, it'd be worth it for him to realize that you don't have to be a big fish to play big, you just have to be fed the hell up and backed into a corner.

                      the only positive thing i can say regarding this guy is that he won't be able to bother you in heaven. he is going to have some karma to work out for a long long while. ward yourselves with positivity and light, and fight the darkness. man i would be in the corner with my back up like a hissing cat right now.

                      it just isn't right.
                      If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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                        #26
                        Many of you know one of these.

                        Profile of the Sociopath
                        This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.



                        Glibness and Superficial Charm


                        Manipulative and Conning
                        They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.


                        Grandiose Sense of Self
                        Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."


                        Pathological Lying
                        Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.


                        Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
                        A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.


                        Shallow Emotions
                        When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.


                        Incapacity for Love


                        Need for Stimulation
                        Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.


                        Callousness/Lack of Empathy
                        Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.


                        Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
                        Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.


                        Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
                        Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.


                        Irresponsibility/Unreliability
                        Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.


                        Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
                        Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.


                        Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
                        Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.


                        Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
                        Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

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                        If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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                          #27
                          but you know who he is now, everything he's doing is out in the open. all of that previous legwork is done. he's awful.

                          can you get a restraining order? anything? he should not be allowed to even utter your names in any threatening capacity, especially defamatory -- much less anything more corporeal.
                          Filed 7/28/08, Discharged 10/29/08
                          (filed pro se: nonconsumer no asset CH7)

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                            #28
                            W/o being able to put his fingers on the keyboard RIGHT NOW, we can do nothing. All the prior work and evidence is stale.
                            "To go bravely forward is to invite a miracle."

                            "Worry is the darkroom where negatives are formed."

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by soleprop View Post
                              but you know who he is now, everything he's doing is out in the open. all of that previous legwork is done. he's awful.

                              can you get a restraining order? anything? he should not be allowed to even utter your names in any threatening capacity, especially defamatory -- much less anything more corporeal.
                              If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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                                #30
                                This is so typical of an OUT OF CONTROL forum and why forums have moderators and the ban function.

                                Sounds like you two just got into a personal fight that started on the internet. If you are truly ready to stop, why are you telling us to pm you and giving out personal info about the guy?

                                His sexual orientation and religious beliefs are none of our business. You seem to cite these as proof that he is a bad man. He just might be a bad guy, but these are not the reasons, so why mention them?

                                Ignore the whole thing. Judges recognize frivolous lawsuits if that is what it is.

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