Motion to Compel RE: Stimulus

[Cali]

And you don't think judgment is being passed on those that don't agree with keeping the stimulus?

If she could have forseen the future and knew her husband was going to lose his job the day before the big meeting.... I bet she would have waited. So easy to pass judgement when you are not in those shoes.

[momof5]

Life was hard for many of us when we filed BK and the months/years beyond it. I am sorry for your situation but I do not feel you should get to keep any of that money. I have kids I had to clothe and feed as well (not to mention they are both disabled). We had to struggle too. I'm not here to argue, I was unhappy with the post below your OP that calls out those of us who disagree as being the ones who fared well post BK - that is simply not true.

I would love to hear your story if you were in the same position as the Original poster. If you can honestly say that you would have felt 'oh well big deal' while enough money to pay a mortgage payment or put food on your table was hung out in front of you only to be taken away then you confirm my post. You did NOT struggle like the OP is. Did you have 0 income for even a day? If not then you have never struggled as the OP is right now.

[momof5]

And you don't think judgment is being passed on those that don't agree with keeping the stimulus?

I think its very clear as to who here REALLY needs money to survive and who here DOESNT! It has nothing to do with judging anyone.

[Cali]

I can't believe how many knickers are in a bunch over this.

I do feel for the OP, but I don't think you can say the OP struggle is more than someone else, just because they aren't at 0 income.

I would love to hear your story if you were in the same position as the Original poster. If you can honestly say that you would have felt 'oh well big deal' while enough money to pay a mortgage payment or put food on your table was hung out in front of you only to be taken away then you confirm my post. You did NOT struggle like the OP is. Did you have 0 income for even a day? If not then you have never struggled as the OP is right now.

[nomoretogive]

I think she just needs some support right now. But if you have not lost your job or your spouse hasn't just lost his job then no we can't pass judgement on how she feels. Sorry wrong forum.

[DisneyGirl]

I would love to hear your story if you were in the same position as the Original poster. If you can honestly say that you would have felt 'oh well big deal' while enough money to pay a mortgage payment or put food on your table was hung out in front of you only to be taken away then you confirm my post. You did NOT struggle like the OP is. Did you have 0 income for even a day? If not then you have never struggled as the OP is right now.

My story is very similar to the OP only add in there having two severely disabled children that I had to stop taking to therapy at the same time!!! I won't say I had it "worse" but I had it BAD! And YES I would have given the money back without complaint because they were writing off our debt for us. We were in hell during that time and having that lifted off us while it didn't make things magically better for us, certainly made me feel less like taking my own life. You wanted to know....now you do.

[momof5]

Losing your job is not grounds for keeping the check, I wish it were. I wish things were different but they aren't.

And where did you read this law? Seems there are some trustees in this country that HAVE let people keep their stimulus. What do you say to them? Should they just be good little people and offer it as a sacrifice for having to file BK?

I am sorry but that is the most absurd thing I have ever read on a forum in a response to someone who is very upset. How the heck can you say losing a job is not grounds for keeping the check. They will collect unemployment, food stamps, medical etc..etc. but God forbid they keep a few hundred dollars?
Not everyone who loses a job has because of their own fault.

Are you not eligible for a check due to having to much income? Therefore you feel no one especially those in BK should be entitled to it. There is definately something deeper here that your not sharing. If you couldnt feel any compassion for the OP then why even post in her thread.
She clearly said she has been crying and its quite obvious through her words that she is devastated at not being able to use it to help her family survive. She came here for support!

[DisneyGirl]

And where did you read this law? Seems there are some trustees in this country that HAVE let people keep their stimulus. What do you say to them? Should they just be good little people and offer it as a sacrifice for having to file BK?

I am sorry but that is the most absurd thing I have ever read on a forum in a response to someone who is very upset. How the heck can you say losing a job is not grounds for keeping the check. They will collect unemployment, food stamps, medical etc..etc. but God forbid they keep a few hundred dollars?
Not everyone who loses a job has because of their own fault.

Are you not eligible for a check due to having to much income? Therefore you feel no one especially those in BK should be entitled to it. There is definately something deeper here that your not sharing. If you couldnt feel any compassion for the OP then why even post in her thread.
She clearly said she has been crying and its quite obvious through her words that she is devastated at not being able to use it to help her family survive. She came here for support!

Actually in several posts I did show her compassion. I wished her the best and wished her husband could find a job soon (go back and re-read). I also said the WHOLE reason I got involved is because of YOUR 1st post in this thread that states those of us who feel she should give it back are the ones who fared well post BK. I replied that is simply not true. It all went downhill from there!

To answer your other questions, no I'm not to rich to get a check. As far as I know we're getting one Friday. If I was told because of my BK I had to give it back - I would.

I never said or implied her DH lost his job due to his own fault, where did you get that impression? My opinion is that just because he's lost his job and they are struggling doesn't mean they should get to keep the check if the trustee wants it back (this is the trustee's decision, not mine). I said "I wished things were different" and I meant that.

[Cali]

I stated a few times I feel bad for the OP and I do wish them luck.

I did lose a very high paying job, because the company relocated to another country. We got to keep the stimulus because of exemptions, not because of me losing my job or because the trustees let me keep it.

I think momof5 you are reading more into the things that are posted.

I also took offense to your first post.

[nomoretogive]

Yes give the money back gleefully. They took your debts away so let them take this little money and play. Like it really buys anything in this economy. Once again I am still sorry for your husband's job loss. Hopefully it isn't the end of the world and things will get better. You have to take each day at a time. Prayers and hugs for you.

[lovescats1956]

I feel for this person. Luckily, when I had my 341, the trustee never said anything about our tax refund or the stimulus payment. I was going to hang on to it, (and I did hang on to the tax refund) but I got my discharge so I guess I can keep it. However, I don't think it is fair that some people can keep theirs and others can't. I think it has a lot to do with the trustee and some of them seem not to be very fair in all of this. Yes, the stimulus was money we wouldn't have had before but when you're hurting for money (which most of us are or why would we have filed for bankruptcy?) why shouldn';t people who really need it get to keep it?

[Cali]

All I know is CA has a great homestead/wildcard exemption and that is why I got to keep mine.

I feel for this person. Luckily, when I had my 341, the trustee never said anything about our tax refund or the stimulus payment. I was going to hang on to it, (and I did hang on to the tax refund) but I got my discharge so I guess I can keep it. However, I don't think it is fair that some people can keep theirs and others can't. I think it has a lot to do with the trustee and some of them seem not to be very fair in all of this. Yes, the stimulus was money we wouldn't have had before but when you're hurting for money (which most of us are or why would we have filed for bankruptcy?) why shouldn';t people who really need it get to keep it?

[justplaintired]

I feel for this person. Luckily, when I had my 341, the trustee never said anything about our tax refund or the stimulus payment. I was going to hang on to it, (and I did hang on to the tax refund) but I got my discharge so I guess I can keep it. However, I don't think it is fair that some people can keep theirs and others can't. I think it has a lot to do with the trustee and some of them seem not to be very fair in all of this. Yes, the stimulus was money we wouldn't have had before but when you're hurting for money (which most of us are or why would we have filed for bankruptcy?) why shouldn';t people who really need it get to keep it?

That is kind of what bothers me too, is why some keep it and some don't. Shouldn't that be a universal type thing? Wouldn't that make it more fair for everyone? Shouldn't the government say stimulus checks are off limits in BK or yes take them?

All in all, let's agree to disagree. I personally think taking it is unfair, and shouldn't be allowed. It's not a big enough amount to actually pay off any of our debts, so why bother? I think some of us are getting off track here, we have a very upset (rightly so) friend who came in for comfort, not to be judged by anyone. It is easy to say just give it up and be happy you're debt free, but unless you have had a stimulus check taken how can you know how she feels? None of us have, well that is unless you filed recently and they also took yours.

Personally, I would be heart broken. I admit that. Without any shame I admit that. I am not greedy, just being honest. I want that check. Absolutely positively I want that check. I want to use it for my kids, myself, my DH, I want it, but mostly we need it. If I could say I didn't care if I lost it, then frankly I probably wouldn't be in BK cause that money wouldn't mean much to me, I'd be financial secure enough I didn't need a check from the government. I am sure we all have our sad stories, let's face it, everyone who has to file BK probably has a sad story.

And that is why my heart goes out to anyone here who lost theirs. It is simply totally not fair, which I know I keep saying, but if they made this a either you keep it or you lose it, it would make all this much easier for us all.

[banca rotta]

Talk of the stimulus started a long time ago. At least in January. So if you knew you were going to file, why not wait until you got the check first and then file? It can be done. I know for this person it's to late but seriously, the stimulus idea has been out there for months. It was not something they just surprised us all with.

I'm not trying to be cruel here by any means. I am very sorry for this OP's situation. I hope your husband can find work soon and you can make ends meet in the mean time.

I too agree with this but was trying to stay out. I wish the OP the best of luck.

I think anyone reading this that's planning to file should hold off until the check is in the bank and spent on essential items unless you must file sooner.

[sisterfunkhaus]

there is simply no way anyone will convince me that taking this little stimulus check is going to help pay down people's creditors,

We figured that each of our creditors would get $30 on our debt of $250,000. That is such a paltry sum that no one can convince me that it is about the creditors either. It's a joke. The trustees just want to make more $$$ for themselves.