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    Why do some Trustee's allow people to keep their tax refunds and others don't?

    Any ideas why? My trustee never mentioned giving up our tax refunds when we filed. In fact, our lawyer said we could spend it as we pleased. Why do some districts require tax refunds to be given up while others don't?

    #2
    For me (Illinois) we are able to exempt the EIC and that is a majority of my refund. The rest was covered by my $4K wildcard exemption.

    I must say it does not seem fair that people in the same state, or even the same district, the trustees seem to keep or give up the refunds on a whim.
    Filed Ch 7 Pro Se 11-18-2010 341 Meeting 12-16-2010 Discharged 2-15-2011
    New Job 7-2011

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      #3
      I have no idea why they vary so greatly across the board. I sure wish we lived in a state that allowed us to exempt any portion of ours. It would be nice to be looking forward to banking the refund instead of shipping it off to the trustee ;)
      Filed pro se, made it through the 341, discharged, Closed!!!

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        #4
        Many people expect the bk law to be black and white and so equally enforced everywhere. However, much of bk law is all about judicial interpretations and prior case law decisions in the district or local court you file in.

        Different trustees and bk judges interpret the same bk law different ways. That's what leads to the many differences seen in how the Ch 13 portion of the bk law is enforced across the country - this includes whether tax refunds have to be fully or partially surrendered or if you get to keep it all. Fair? No. It's just the way all law in the United States works. C'est la vie.
        I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

        06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
        06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
        07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
        10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
        01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
        09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
        06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
        08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

        10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
        Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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          #5
          I suspect our district is so busy they simply don't have time to review every single return each year in the search for a refund. Our trustee doesn't even want to see our tax returns each year.
          Filed Chapter 13 on 2-28-10. 341 completed 4/14/10. Confirmed 5/14/10. Lien strip granted 2/2/11
          0% payback to unsecured creditors, 56 payments down, 4 to go....

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            #6
            In Northeast Tn,our trustee allows us to keep anything under $1500.anything over that goes into the plan.

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              #7
              We have to send a copy of our return each year. But, they put our 2009 return into the overall earnings for 2009.
              Chapter 13 filed: 1/22/10341 Meeting: 3/18/10
              Confirmation Hearing 6/23/10...CONFIRMED27 down 33 to go

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                #8
                They're all wired differently when it comes to the internal greedometer.
                Last edited by debee; 01-15-2011, 03:43 PM.
                There are two secrets for success in life:
                1.) Never tell everything you know.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by debee View Post
                  They're all wired differently when it comes to the internal greedometer.
                  "greedometer", I like that lol
                  Filed pro se, made it through the 341, discharged, Closed!!!

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                    #10
                    I was wondering the same thing. I knew for sure my trustee would ask for mine but he didn't. I hadn't heard anything about it actually. I owed back taxes that were all included in the Chap13. I called the IRS, both state and federal and they said usually the trustee would inform them as well, nothing. I will get my refunds!

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                      #11
                      I'm in Missouri and as far as I know we are allowed to keep $600 of our refund. We raised our exemptions so we can keep as much of our paychecks as possible and get a smaller refund. But I'm pretty sure what I read in our BK paperwork it says only $600. Honestly, that's okay. I'd rather get more per month out of my paycheck and a smaller refund so the money goes in my pocket.
                      Filed: 11/10; 341: 1/11; Confirmed: 2/11
                      49 payments down, 11 to go...

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                        #12
                        Where in your bankruptcy docs is it? I'm hoping I haven't missed anything!

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                          #13
                          I don't have a copy on me right now, but I know for a fact it was in there. I looked for it specifically!!
                          Filed: 11/10; 341: 1/11; Confirmed: 2/11
                          49 payments down, 11 to go...

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                            #14
                            perfect greedometer LOVES IT!!! ..... mine is a greedy sob... everything she takes... every single last penny.... every raise, every bonus, ... she is a meanie...
                            Filed 7/17/10 1st 341 8/17/10 2nd 341 9/16/10 1st confirmation 10/06/10 2nd confirmation 11/10/10 Bar Date 11/15/10 3rd and final confirmation hearing Dec 8 and acceptance of plan Dec 29 2010....

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                              #15
                              I honestly can't imagine having a trustee that takes everything and feel sorry for those of you that do. Bankruptcy is hard enough, let alone having some jackass who feels the need to take every raise, bonus, refund, and dime that you see for five years straight. We were not able to get our Chapter 13 payment any lower, so it pretty much takes every bonus and refund to keep up with our medical bills.

                              So, for those of you who have trustees that take refunds, does the IRS send you the full refund then you have to turn around and send it to the trustee? Or do they garnish your refund and the IRS sends it straight to the trustee?

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