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    Hi, I'm new here and have a questions. My husband and I are filing chapter 13 and the lawyer mention to use a 910 rule on my vehicle which falls in that category. Could someone explain it too me.

    thank you.
    Filed Chapter 13 Sept 8 2009
    341 Meeting October 2009
    Converted to Chapter 7 January 2010 due too loss of income. Discharged May 2010

    #2
    If you have owned your car for 910+ plus days...
    AND
    If you owe more on the car than the car is worth...
    THEN
    You can pay the car off inside the chapter 13 at the current market value.

    For example, if the car is worth $10,000, but you owe $15,000; if you have owned the car for more than 910 days, you can divide that $10,000 by the number of months in your chapter 13, and pay the car off that way.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Pinkrose View Post
      Hi, I'm new here and have a questions.
      Welcome to BK Forum - glad you found us!

      My husband and I are filing chapter 13 and the lawyer mention to use a 910 rule on my vehicle which falls in that category. Could someone explain it too me.
      Here's an excellent explanation of the 910 rule posted here in the forums last February by HHM, one of our most excellent moderators - http://www.bkforum.com/showthread.php?t=35316

      Take a look at the whole thread, and if you still have questions, post them here. We'll help you sort everything out.
      I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

      06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
      06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
      07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
      10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
      01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
      09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
      06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
      08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

      10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
      Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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        #4
        I will try to explain it as my lawyer did for me. You have to have been making payments on the vehicle for at least 910 days in order to cram the payments down and include it in your bankruptcy. In my situation I still owed twice what the car was worth. The balance was $10k going in. In the plan it was "crammed down" i.e. the car was determined to be worth $5k and the payments worked out to be $100/mo for the duration of the plan. I was making $375/mo payments and still had three years to go. Very upside down on it. The trustee disburses payments out of your plan to the bank it is financed through. You get to keep the car and any remaining balance is discharged after your case has ended. This only works for primary vehicles and not "luxury" items such as boats, rv's or motorcycles.
        Filed July 2009. Discharged 08/08/2014. Awaiting closing. We made it !!!! Woo-hoo!

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          #5
          thanks for the replys. My balance on my car is 18,000 and book value is about 9,000. My monthly payments are 672, do I continue to pay that amount outside of plan. Oh yes I have the car for 4 years now.
          Filed Chapter 13 Sept 8 2009
          341 Meeting October 2009
          Converted to Chapter 7 January 2010 due too loss of income. Discharged May 2010

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            #6
            Originally posted by Pinkrose View Post
            thanks for the replys. My balance on my car is 18,000 and book value is about 9,000. My monthly payments are 672, do I continue to pay that amount outside of plan. Oh yes I have the car for 4 years now.


            Hey do you have to be current to include the car in a chapter 13?
            The information provided is not and should not be considered legal advice or establish an attorney/client relationship.

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              #7
              Originally posted by bklawn View Post
              Hey do you have to be current to include the car in a chapter 13?
              No, you need not be current, you can pay the missed payments in the chapter 13. But, you need to file your BK before they repo and sell the car (in most cases, that will be after 2 missed payments).
              Last edited by HHM; 09-07-2009, 07:36 AM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Pinkrose View Post
                thanks for the replys. My balance on my car is 18,000 and book value is about 9,000. My monthly payments are 672, do I continue to pay that amount outside of plan. Oh yes I have the car for 4 years now.
                If it is included in your plan, the payment would be the 9k (current value) spread out over the duration of the plan plus interest. My interest is 5%. For a five year plan the payment may be about 180/mo estimated. Your lawyer would give you the exact amount. These payments would be disbursed from your monthly trustee payment.
                Filed July 2009. Discharged 08/08/2014. Awaiting closing. We made it !!!! Woo-hoo!

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