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    Is Below Median Income & ch13 always 3 Years?

    My income is below median but actual income and expenses right now show a positive MDI. If my attorney puts me in a ch13 is it always a 3 year plan in this case?
    Chapter 13ner

    #2
    Originally posted by TrainWreak View Post
    My income is below median but actual income and expenses right now show a positive MDI. If my attorney puts me in a ch13 is it always a 3 year plan in this case?
    There's not enough information here to give you a reliable guess about what to expect in your case.

    Is the positive MDI you mentioned coming from a Means Test done by you or by your lawyer? If you did it on your own, then the positive result is not reliable. If you haven't already, set up 3-4 free initial consultations with experienced bk lawyers in your area to get a more realistic estimate of where you stand on filing Ch 7 or Ch 13.

    If your income is below the median for your state but a Means Test and Schedules completed by an experienced bk attorney still show enough disposable income to support a Ch13 (and frankly, this is very rare), then yes, chances are your Ch 13 plan would be for three years, not five.
    I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

    06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
    06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
    07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
    10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
    01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
    09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
    06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
    08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

    10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
    Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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      #3
      My online means test shows a -$828 MDI but my real MDI comes to a positive $294. The latter figure came from the pre-BK counseling service and seems accurate. I am way below the median income for my state and local.
      I met a 30year BK only attorney in his new satellite office so he was not able to enter anything into a computer yet. He just opened that office to make it more convenient for filers in my area and it wasn't completely set up yet. His main office is about a hundred miles from there.
      Thanks for your help
      Chapter 13ner

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        #4
        Originally posted by TrainWreak View Post
        My online means test shows a -$828 MDI but my real MDI comes to a positive $294. The latter figure came from the pre-BK counseling service and seems accurate. I am way below the median income for my state and local.
        A 'pre-bk counseling service'is *not* a reliable source for completing the Means Test and Schedules. There is a ton of bk case law and precedents plus local court customs that a service like this is not likely to know. Those gaps can make a huge difference in how your Means Test and Schedules results turn out.


        I met a 30year BK only attorney in his new satellite office so he was not able to enter anything into a computer yet. He just opened that office to make it more convenient for filers in my area and it wasn't completely set up yet. His main office is about a hundred miles from there.
        It's going to be well worth the drive to get a more knowledgeable source to work with you to file your case.

        And please, meet with at least two more experienced bk-only lawyers in your area to ensure you get a clear picture of what will happen if you file and which chapter you really do qualify for (and I'm betting it's going to be Ch 7).
        I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice nor a statement of the law - only a lawyer can provide those.

        06/01/06 - Filed Ch 13
        06/28/06 - 341 Meeting
        07/18/06 - Confirmation Hearing - not confirmed, 3 objections
        10/05/06 - Hearing to resolve 2 trustee objections
        01/24/07 - Judge dismisses mortgage company objection
        09/27/07 - Confirmed at last!
        06/10/11 - Trustee confirms all payments made
        08/10/11 - DISCHARGED !

        10/02/11 - CASE CLOSED
        Countdown: 60 months paid, 0 months to go

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          #5
          I used a different site for the official means test

          This was lawyer #4 and the initial interview went well and the fact finding 3.5 hour appointment went well. I had a lot of stuff to go through. Two closed businesses and one still going. His office at his original location is crunching the numbers now. I have already retained him.
          I have enough assets to likely go over the allowed exemptions so that comes into play. I should be safe on the house in a 7 or 13
          With 30 years of experience he seems to know the local rules and trustee requirements I just want to make sure I get fair treatment. At this time I have no reason not to trust him but you never know.
          Chapter 13ner

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