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    Please help me...

    DH and I filed Ch. 13 BK in October of 2004, and were set up with a 60 month plan with 60% going to unsecureds. Our plan includes one priority claim for a water bill which has not yet been paid through the plan, arrearages on our first and second mortgages (which have now been paid), as well as some arrearages and the balance of DH's motorcycle. The bike has since been paid off, and we received the title and sold it, after receiving permission to do so. Long story short, the only thing being paid through our plan now is our first and second mortgages and the trustee fee. It appears as though not one of our unsecured creditors filed a claim. The only thing remaining to be paid is our one priority claim of the water bill, our regular mortgage payments, and the trustee's percentage. Additionally, there is now a balance of $4,400+ sitting in our account.

    My question is: Why are we still in this plan? Why do we have to pay all of this into the plan if nobody filed a claim? Will they divide the balance and give them each something? The amount that is extra is nowhere near 60% of our balances, and according to my calculations there will be a $6,000 surplus at the end of our plan.

    I realize that if it is a surplus that we would eventually get it back, but we need it now...we're putting off big things like badly needed dental work and braces and a move to a neighboring state. Currently we would have to ask for permission, have an appraisal, etc. This would all cost a great deal of money and time, and in this market our house may not even sell prior to the end of the plan anyhow, so we've been waiting it out for the last year and a half with another 6+ months to go, possibly longer until they get around to our discharge. Is it reasonable to think we could ask for an early discharge? Who do I ask? How do I make sure I am correct on everything before proceeding with this?

    My lawyer is the type of person that would make me feel like an idiot for even asking, and would completely belittle me. He lets a lot to be desired, and had we not been in denial until the last second prior to filing, we would have done a lot more homework and found a lawyer who was a better fit...but that's a whole other story.

    #2
    What you need to do is obtain a print out from your attorney of your case and go over the situation with him. Also review your confirmed Plan papers for any further information you need as to your Plan - it will spell it all out for you. But you do need to go over this with your attorney and since you filed under the old law, you should have no problem in getting out early if you are able to.

    You paid your attorney for his services which cover you from the start to finish of your Plan. Ignore his demeanor and get what you paid for. Best of luck to you!
    _________________________________________
    Filed 5 Year Chapter 13: April 2002
    Early Buy-Out: April 2006
    Discharge: August 2006

    "A credit card is a snake in your pocket"

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      #3
      Flamingo, the fee you pay to him doesn't include, however any court time he may have to do for you. I had to pay $375 for him to show up to my Adversary hearing and I know my co-worker paid $250 to show up to the non-payment court issue. You pay thousands to him and all he does really is prepare paperwork and go to the 341 which takes 5 mins. I chose the wrong profession!
      Filed: October 1, 2007 341: December 10, 2007
      CONFIRMED: December 10, 2007
      Payment: $825 / Mo. for 5 Years-29 MONTHS OF Pmts Down 23 to go!

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        #4
        I agree with you there MajorMike...wrong profession here too!

        My fee to him does include him answering any questions and sitting down with us at any time. If we needed to file a motion, or anything additional it would cost us, but he did remind us a little over a year ago that answering our questions and reviewing our plan was included in the fees we paid him. He's just a bit obnoxious...and belittles us. Lessons learned here in more ways than one! Should have done my homework. Anyhow, I just wonder if what I proposed is an option, why wouldn't he have brought it up when we sat down in Feb. 08 to see what we needed to do to sell our house? He proposed converting to a 7 (we have our reasons for not wanting to) and outlined the steps we would take and the thousands we needed to pay just to try to sell the house, but nothing about an early discharge in month 40 of a 60 month plan under old law. I am now trying to work up the nerve to ask him...wish me luck!

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          #5
          It would seem as though once the trustee pays the water bill (can't figure out why that is), that your attorney could file a motion for discharge.

          I agree - call him. Set up an appointment to go talk to him about this.

          Good luck.

          K
          You can't have your cake and eat it too. But you can dip your finger in the bowl and lick the icing

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            #6
            Originally posted by MajorMike View Post
            Flamingo, the fee you pay to him doesn't include, however any court time he may have to do for you. I had to pay $375 for him to show up to my Adversary hearing and I know my co-worker paid $250 to show up to the non-payment court issue. You pay thousands to him and all he does really is prepare paperwork and go to the 341 which takes 5 mins. I chose the wrong profession!
            MajorMike - Your first sentence confused me a bit because the OP does not mention filing any Motions or having any modifications done. When you retain an attorney, that fee covers you from start to finish UNLESS something like a Motion has to be filed; we had to pay $400 additional for the Motion allowing us to refinance and buy out of our Plan. It appears all the OP needs to do is contact his attorney and he should not be charged for that in order to find out what needs to be done. Yes if a Motion needs to be filed allowing them to buy out sooner there will be an additional fee but to contact the attorney to find out what is going on falls under the attorney's retention.

            To the OP - get the "nerve" you mention below and find out what needs to be done. Don't allow him to intimidate you. It's your money and future, not his.
            _________________________________________
            Filed 5 Year Chapter 13: April 2002
            Early Buy-Out: April 2006
            Discharge: August 2006

            "A credit card is a snake in your pocket"

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              #7
              I finally sent off that email, just waiting for the response! Please cross you fingers, arms, legs, toes...anything that will cross that this will work for us. I just don't understand why he couldn't have looked at our case when we went to him a year ago asking about selling our house and realized this...

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