I don't know how y'all will feel about this

[AngelinaCatHub]

What I SAID was, use 350.out of the 400. alloted for food, wisely, I might add, for food and then use the Angel program to supplement if needed.

The program is set up for FOOD, not for you to use and save money on food so you can have money for your other expenses.

My last post on this topic. I try not to think about things like this or I would never volunteer for a food program again.

P.S. Donating money back would be nice. Does it say, congratulations, you can use the saved money to repair your frig or car?

[fltoo]

Hub, don't ever let your pride get in the way of feeding yourself if you need it.
Get food stamps, also, if needed. The programs are there to help people in need.


Have you tried some of the energy help plans from the county?

[AngelinaCatHub]

Hub, don't ever let your pride get in the way of feeding yourself if you need it.
Get food stamps, also, if needed. The programs are there to help people in need.


Have you tried some of the energy help plans from the county?

We have an application in for food stamps. Even bk is expensive and we must pay back a preferential payment. It will be real tough until February as all will be paid up including my car payment. Thanks for your suggestion, and after a few months we will be doing better. 'Hub

[arkienurse]

We have an application in for food stamps. Even bk is expensive and we must pay back a preferential payment. It will be real tough until February as all will be paid up including my car payment. Thanks for your suggestion, and after a few months we will be doing better. 'Hub

I am glad things will be getting better soon for you two. Also, lots of churches give help also, so if you havent' looked into that yet, talk to your pastor/priest/rabbi/etc and see what is available.

[woeisme]

Wow, I am suprised the hostility to the OP for posting up something to help people out who are very hard up on money. (all of us)

I'm not that surprised Mark80, the poster who was particularly hostile seems to have a history of making very judgemental statements, in my opinion, and so now I tend to ignore that person's posts as a general principle. that's not to say all that poster's posts are hostile and judgemental, just that I've seen enough to say there's a definite pattern, a "holier-than-thou" attitude that I find unhelpful. But hey, it's a public forum, and everyone is free to post as long as it's not abusive, just as we are free to ignore the posts from those that we feel to be unhelpful.

[arkienurse]

OK, I was defending the OP, now I must put in a word for fltoo also.
If you go back and read one of her last posts, it seems that fltoo does volunteer work with a food bank or other charity. I am willing to bet it is a NEED based one, and she has gotten sick of watching the people that don't really meet the requirements, or even necessarily need the service, try and scam them for food or other assistance. She went off before understanding fully that Angel Food is for anyone that wants to use it, no matter what.

And yes it is an open forum and we are free to ignore anyone we wish. There have been some on here that I would love to block their posts from ever being seen, like you can with some of the newsgroup programs.

[AngelinaCat]

OK, I was defending the OP, now I must put in a word for fltoo also.
If you go back and read one of her last posts, it seems that fltoo does volunteer work with a food bank or other charity. I am willing to bet it is a NEED based one, and she has gotten sick of watching the people that don't really meet the requirements, or even necessarily need the service, try and scam them for food or other assistance. She went off before understanding fully that Angel Food is for anyone that wants to use it, no matter what.

And yes it is an open forum and we are free to ignore anyone we wish. There have been some on here that I would love to block their posts from ever being seen, like you can with some of the newsgroup programs.

I also need to put my two cents in here, in defense of fltoo. A certain relative that we have no use for, has retired twice and gets two pensions plus military disability that amounts into thousands of dollars a month. He is also a crack addict. When last heard from, he claims to be clean, but I'll take that with a whole pound of salt.

Anyway, several years ago when he was actively doping, he proudly showed 'Hub that he was a member of three (3) food banks--which he then took and sold or traded the goods for his hits. He was very proud of being able to 'play the system'.

Do a google search for 'Profile of a Sociopath.'

'Hub was horrified. Said relative also got himself thrown out of a very nice Veterans home because of his doping.

We tried helping this person, but all he did was to run up our credit card, and bring very undesirable persons on the property. He is permanently banned.

So I can sympathize with fltoo seeing people coming in that truly are NOT in need.

[Flamingo]

This brings to mind someone I worked with years ago who was single and had a young son but had a good paying job and lots of help from relatives. Because of her young son, she had access to various programs to obtain all sorts of free food from food banks and other programs which of course is a good thing for her child. However, she would obtain the free items and bring them into work (hunks of cheese, etc.) and give them away to co-workers since she said "she didn't need them" and she would laugh and said she got them free from the government or wherever at that point she obtained them. She would also distribute food items to her well off family. We would just look at each other and shake our heads but none of us ever confronted her for fear of just opening our mouths. There are always two sides to every coin to every situation that various people see or have experienced different ways. I look back and wish some of us had opened our mouths at that time but when you are in a working environment, you try not to make too many waves...

[woeisme]

Sorry, didn't mean to start a fight over this, which is why I put in there that as long as it's not abusive, that everyone is entitled to their opinion and could post away. As to arkinurse's suggestions, I've also seen that function on boards that allowed one to completely filter out certain posters. I've typically only use it for trolls (which fltoo in NO WAY is!) rather than just someone who's opinion I sometimes disagree with. So since the moderators do such a good job taking care of trolls, I guess it isn't as necessary on this board as it is on others.

[fltoo]

I'm not that surprised Mark80, the poster who was particularly hostile seems to have a history of making very judgemental statements, in my opinion, and so now I tend to ignore that person's posts as a general principle. that's not to say all that poster's posts are hostile and judgemental, just that I've seen enough to say there's a definite pattern, a "holier-than-thou" attitude that I find unhelpful. But hey, it's a public forum, and everyone is free to post as long as it's not abusive, just as we are free to ignore the posts from those that we feel to be unhelpful.

You remind me of the office gossip. If you had a problem, pm me and I will of course listen to your complaint instead of directing a response to a third party. Do you consider yourself less hostile and judgmental for directing your opinion to a third party instead of the person with whom you have the problem? Or is it just hostile to direct your comment at the offending person?

Cali had posters berate her also for being direct. She and I just happen to be abrupt and direct and come from a fast paced part of the country. So, you put me in good company. As we all know, it is hard to know someone from the written word with no expression and intonation.

If you consider it hostility, so be it. My ego is not that fragile that I have to convince you of a different opinon. I am not out to change your mind with arguing over something as silly as this and don't plan on posting about it any longer. My response is just to ask you, if you have a complaint, why not due process?

[fltoo]

OK, I was defending the OP, now I must put in a word for fltoo also.
If you go back and read one of her last posts, it seems that fltoo does volunteer work with a food bank or other charity. I am willing to bet it is a NEED based one, and she has gotten sick of watching the people that don't really meet the requirements, or even necessarily need the service, try and scam them for food or other assistance. She went off before understanding fully that Angel Food is for anyone that wants to use it, no matter what.

And yes it is an open forum and we are free to ignore anyone we wish. There have been some on here that I would love to block their posts from ever being seen, like you can with some of the newsgroup programs.

You are very perceptive and hit the nail on the head. Sorry if I came across abruptly.

[arkienurse]

You are very perceptive and hit the nail on the head. Sorry if I came across abruptly.

No, I didn't think you were abrupt, just vehement about your beliefs. After re-reading that post, it suddenly came clear to me.

I have had that struggle to a point at work at times. Try helping some 26 year old woman deliver her 6th child, by 5 different daddies, all paid for by medicaid. And refuse a tubal because she wants more kids.


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Now, don't anyone get really mad at me over this statement. I had my first baby with medicaid. However, I held off on the second until I had insurance with maternity coverage. I do think medicaid is a good thing, just there ought to be a limit on how many kids it will pay for. Just like most of the states have a limit on how long you can be on welfare.

[Flamingo]

(snip) Cali had posters berate her also for being direct. She and I just happen to be abrupt and direct and come from a fast paced part of the country. So, you put me in good company. As we all know, it is hard to know someone from the written word with no expression and intonation. (snip)

I am known on here not to "sugar coat" things most of the time. Sometimes hand holding can only go so far. I will usually warn the poster that they are probably not going to like what I am ready to say and just say it. The best is someone getting back to me about the font I used (they made a posting, not a PM) that I was trying to be in control over the poster I was responding to by utilizing a bigger font in bold form. I changed to that font over a year ago due to someone advising me my prevoius font was too small and they could not read it! So I so advised the irritated poster with a response in the same thread about it.

Some people just don't like to hear anything unless you totally agree with them or they "misread" what you are stating. There are only a few people on here that I think sometimes post too quickly without thinking and get themselves in a mess but otherwise those that post most often appear to be genuine which is an excellent thing.

[Flamingo]

No, I didn't think you were abrupt, just vehement about your beliefs. After re-reading that post, it suddenly came clear to me.

I have had that struggle to a point at work at times. Try helping some 26 year old woman deliver her 6th child, by 5 different daddies, all paid for by medicaid. And refuse a tubal because she wants more kids.


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Now, don't anyone get really mad at me over this statement. I had my first baby with medicaid. However, I held off on the second until I had insurance with maternity coverage. I do think medicaid is a good thing, just there ought to be a limit on how many kids it will pay for. Just like most of the states have a limit on how long you can be on welfare.

To give a funny and true twist to what you state above, early in my career I did some work in the Support Section of our State Court and organized the Court Docket for each day (Child/Spousal support cases). One day the Chance family was on the docket. I pulled the large file and readied the case for the hearing. I could not believe what was in there; this woman had 11 children - all the children were by different fathers but had to smile at the name of the child involved in the nest day's support hearing...."Last Chance." I am not kidding, true story.

[AngelinaCat]

Hi All: To try to get this thread back on track, 'Hub and I signed up on the website to see what possibilities are there.

So far, we are playing 'telephone tag' with cell phones, yet. We will keep you posted one way or the other.

Love to All!