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    Hate to do it, need to give up home

    Hi,

    My heart is breaking and I am walking around like a lost sheep, but I don't see any other way out of this. I am behind on payments ans I know that any day now, the bank will start proceedings to take my home. Here's the short version of what I shared a few months ago.

    Here's the situation. I hope I get in all the details. I filed for bankruptcy in April, it was officially confirmed in June. I did so because the bank was close to selling my home, I was already a step past foreclosure. The bankruptcy officially stopped the sale. I have an approved budget and trustee payments that I make every month. That payment covers the three outstanding debts that the court said had to be paid and could not be dismissed. All my other debts, other than my deferred student loans, have been pardoned. I must pay the arrears on my mortgage, condo fees and the balance of my lawyer's fee. That payment is now $1000 a month. My mortgage is now $1850. What was not taken into account is that for four months, I do not teach. I immediately called my lawyer and he said there was nothing I could do about payments. There was no room for negotiation. So for four months I have been at -$500, then the original trustee payment went up by $300 and my mortgage by $250. That puts me at -$1050. Never mind that I now have college expenses for my older daughter as well as school expenses for my younger one.

    At this point, I have two options. I can come up with money to bring my payments up to date and have some funds set aside for a few months. Many companies will refinance 6 to 9 months after you file for bankruptcy. I have two that are holding my file until January. My lawyer said that he could help as well, but I have to wait. Anyway, a loan right now would serve as a "back-up" for the deficit I run every month. Also, it would help me to build up my credit for when I refinance. I can get a loan with the bankruptcy, but I need a co-signer. I looked into rates yesterday and depending on the amount I could pay as little as 120 a month for a 36 month loan. If I can do this, I keep the home, can refinance in a few months and pay back the loan. I get a clean slate and my trustee payment lowers because the refinance will take care of the arrears as well. However, I have co-signer.

    The other option is moving, which means I let the bank take the home. That breaks the bankruptcy agreement (not a good thing) and all the debts that were dismissed become active again and I will owe them all. Also, the sale of the home can occur very quickly. I mightl still need a co-signer to rent a place, though since most rentals out here are homes, an owner might not run my credit at all.

    So that's my situation and here are my questions. Do I let my lawyer know that I need to give up the home? How much time will I have to move? How will this affect the bankruptcy? Any other advice would be helpful. THANKS!!!!

    Freaking out in NJ

    #2
    You can try to convert to a chapter 7. Please talk with your lawyer about options. From what I've been told, it's better to convert a bankruptcy than to have it dismissed. (they can't come after you after you are discharged from a 7)

    Don't beat yourself up over this, either. Honestly, I first had a 13 that I tried my hardest to keep. The more I gave up trying to keep the house afloat, the more I hated the house. Now I can hardly wait to move. I want to leave this house now. I'm looking forward to a fresh start.

    Hang in there. These will turn out for the best in the end.

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      #3
      If you let the house go they will not dismiss your case as long as you continue to make your trustee's payments.
      However, if you would have initially qualified for a chapter 7 and you choose to do a chapter 13 to save your house, then you can let the house go and convert to a chapter 7 and be done 4 months from now.
      It sounds like letting the house go could be the smartest thing for you to do as hard as I'm sure it is to contemplate.
      Filed: 10/26/2006
      Discharged: 03/05/2007
      Closed: 5/19/2008 - Asset case due to balance transfer and income tax refund

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        #4
        Oh my God, I didn't know about converting. Thank you both for your help. I'll look into it right away.

        THANKS! YOU MADE MY DAY!!

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          #5
          I have another question. I just called my lawyer and I might not be able to speak to him until Monday. What happens to my home when I convert to Chapter 7? Will I be given time to move?

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            #6
            Originally posted by ana831 View Post
            I have another question. I just called my lawyer and I might not be able to speak to him until Monday. What happens to my home when I convert to Chapter 7? Will I be given time to move?
            Your mortgage company will request a relief of stay from the bankruptcy court and then normal foreclosure procedure will start. The length of time you can stay in your home will vary state to state, but you will definitely have some time to live rent free, save some money, find a new place to live, and move before everything is final.

            Someone who has been through the process will probably be along to give more details.
            Filed: 10/26/2006
            Discharged: 03/05/2007
            Closed: 5/19/2008 - Asset case due to balance transfer and income tax refund

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              #7
              Thanks Jolly,

              Is the process the same as it was before I filed for bankruptcy? In other words, does the mortgage have to refile for foreclosure and then move to the sheriff's sale? I came real close to having a sheriff's sale, but filed before it happened.

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                #8
                Originally posted by ana831 View Post
                Thanks Jolly,

                Is the process the same as it was before I filed for bankruptcy? In other words, does the mortgage have to refile for foreclosure and then move to the sheriff's sale? I came real close to having a sheriff's sale, but filed before it happened.
                I'm not really sure of the answer to that. There are a number of members here who have been through the process.
                However, I do belive it is basically the same process. So however long you had last time would be a good gauge of how long you will have this time. But, I'm guessing it will seem so much longer this time, becuase time won't be rushing forward on a house you want to save. You'll know what to expect and plan so things work out for you.
                Filed: 10/26/2006
                Discharged: 03/05/2007
                Closed: 5/19/2008 - Asset case due to balance transfer and income tax refund

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                  #9
                  Thanks Jolly. You're a God-send!

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                    #10
                    Your kids need to know your plight, and let them shoulder some of the load. Right now you have more than you can carry.
                    Best wishes,
                    emoney

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ana831 View Post
                      Thanks Jolly,

                      Is the process the same as it was before I filed for bankruptcy? In other words, does the mortgage have to refile for foreclosure and then move to the sheriff's sale? I came real close to having a sheriff's sale, but filed before it happened.
                      Technically, you are still in arrears, so it's like being in default. That means that as soon as you convert, the mortgage company will motion to have the stay lifted and foreclosure will commense. Remember, you are already behind, so that's all the lender needs to start forecloser. In most cases, the borrower becomes 90 days late and foreclosure proceedings will start, so in essence, you may already be 90 days late.

                      Nevertheless, you will have some time left in your home. From what I understand, the foreclosure process has sped up in some states, so you may want to check what the timeframe is for your area. A good example here is, that Ohio was a 12-18 months timiline, but lately, it's been 6-8 months.
                      Bankruptcy History:
                      Chapter 7 filed - 10/12/2005 - Asset
                      Discharged - 02/16/2006
                      Case Closed - 11/08/2007

                      A banker is a fellow who lends you his umbrella when the sun is shining and wants it back the minute it begins to rain ~ Mark Twain

                      All suggestions are based on personal experience and research and SHOULD NOT be construed as legal advice as I am NOT an attorney. Always consult with competent counsel in your area with regards to your particular situation.

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                        #12
                        Emoney, My older daughter knows the details. She's starting a part time job which will help. My younger one is too young to get what is going on other than to know that we can't spend money.

                        Bassboy, thanks for the tip. I'll see what I can find out about what happens in NJ.

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