Hi everyone, long time lurker, first time poster. My wife and just completed a 3 year plan and received our discharge a few months ago. Everything went smoothly and all 100% medical related; unsecured. I recently received a bill from a collection agency for a debt that was from the date of the medical event. So I call and I let them know that I had completed a ch13 and had been discharged. They asked me for the case number and that was that. My question is, what now? Will they go away? I not sure if they were listed in the schedules, but we had not received a bill or any notice at all in the last 3 years from this provider. They are a medical bill so they are unsecured. So I'm not sure what to expect now?
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If that debt was included in the Chapter 13 bankruptcy -- it was something from before you filed -- then they would stop trying to collect. That's why they asked for the case number and where you filed so they can double check. But, there's always a but, it may not have been discharged if you were in a 100% plan and forgot to or didn't list them as a creditor and they never received notice.
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Originally posted by justbroke View PostWelcome to BKForum.
If that debt was included in the Chapter 13 bankruptcy -- it was something from before you filed -- then they would stop trying to collect. That's why they asked for the case number and where you filed so they can double check. But, there's always a but, it may not have been discharged if you were in a 100% plan and forgot to or didn't list them as a creditor and they never received notice.
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Whether it was scheduled or not could be crucial. An unscheduled debt in a Chapter 13 can be problematic later since the creditor had no opportunity to "participate" in the bankruptcy and receive any distribution under the plan. I misspoke when I put that it's both a 100% plan "and" you forgot. It doesn't matter if it was a 100% plan or not when it comes to unscheduled creditors in a Chapter 13.Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog
Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.
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Originally posted by justbroke View PostWhether it was scheduled or not could be crucial. An unscheduled debt in a Chapter 13 can be problematic later since the creditor had no opportunity to "participate" in the bankruptcy and receive any distribution under the plan. I misspoke when I put that it's both a 100% plan "and" you forgot. It doesn't matter if it was a 100% plan or not when it comes to unscheduled creditors in a Chapter 13.
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The thing is to look at your Schedule F (Unsecured Creditors) and see if the creditor (original creditor or collection agency) is listed. I think that the creditor will just see that you had a bankruptcy that began after the medical charges and they'll just give up.
Creditors wait because there is a stay that is automatically created once you filed. It's known as the automatic stay. A creditor can suffer severe consequences and penalties for violating that automatic stay. Any attempt to collect, continue the collection, or sue while the stay is in place is a big no-no. That's why they wait.Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog
Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.
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Originally posted by justbroke View PostThe thing is to look at your Schedule F (Unsecured Creditors) and see if the creditor (original creditor or collection agency) is listed. I think that the creditor will just see that you had a bankruptcy that began after the medical charges and they'll just give up.
Creditors wait because there is a stay that is automatically creates once you filed. It's known as the automatic stay. A creditor can suffer severe consequences and penalties for violating that automatic stay. Any attempt to collect, continue the collection, or sue while the stay is in place is a big no-no. That's why they wait.
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