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    HELP! Motion to dismiss!

    I posted last month because we had filed in 9/2005 and had not yet received confirmation. (See http://www.bankruptcyforum.com/showt...t=confirmation)

    I contacted out lawyer and she told me again not to worry about it, that they are probably just behind.

    THEN I open the mail today and have a notice from the trustee's office:

    "Motion to Dismiss with Certificate of Service and Notice of Hearing Thereon (Delay). Trustee files this motion pursuant to section 1307 of the bankruptcy code and bankruptcy rules 9014 and would respectfully show unto the court as follows:

    This case be dismissed for the following cause: Debtor failed to comply with the following bankruptcy rules which caused an unreasonable dealy prejudical to creditors per 11 USC 1307.

    DEBTOR FAILURE TO OBTAIN TIMELY CONFIRMATION OF THE PLAN

    Wherefore your trustee prays that after notice and hearing, this Chapter 13 case be dismissed."

    We have made every single payment on time, and have kept in contact with our lawyer, checked PACER religiously, etc. What the hell?!?! They have a hearing date there. I don't understand what it means to say that "debtor failed to obtain timely confirmation of the plan" ...I thought that was what the trustee does (confirm the plan with the judge?). I'm SO worried about this now...my husband reenlisted in the Army THIS WEEK and is going to leave for training in a month!

    I have to wait till tomorrow to call the lawyer and I'll be chewing my nails between now and then... any advice???
    Filed 9/26/05
    341 Meeting 10/25/05
    Confirmed UGH

    #2
    Originally posted by lgfrog View Post
    I posted last month because we had filed in 9/2005 and had not yet received confirmation. (See http://www.bankruptcyforum.com/showt...t=confirmation)

    I contacted out lawyer and she told me again not to worry about it, that they are probably just behind.

    THEN I open the mail today and have a notice from the trustee's office:

    "Motion to Dismiss with Certificate of Service and Notice of Hearing Thereon (Delay). Trustee files this motion pursuant to section 1307 of the bankruptcy code and bankruptcy rules 9014 and would respectfully show unto the court as follows:

    This case be dismissed for the following cause: Debtor failed to comply with the following bankruptcy rules which caused an unreasonable dealy prejudical to creditors per 11 USC 1307.

    DEBTOR FAILURE TO OBTAIN TIMELY CONFIRMATION OF THE PLAN

    Wherefore your trustee prays that after notice and hearing, this Chapter 13 case be dismissed."

    We have made every single payment on time, and have kept in contact with our lawyer, checked PACER religiously, etc. What the hell?!?! They have a hearing date there. I don't understand what it means to say that "debtor failed to obtain timely confirmation of the plan" ...I thought that was what the trustee does (confirm the plan with the judge?). I'm SO worried about this now...my husband reenlisted in the Army THIS WEEK and is going to leave for training in a month!

    I have to wait till tomorrow to call the lawyer and I'll be chewing my nails between now and then... any advice???
    Unfortunately, there's no way to tell whether this is just a standard form that the Trustee files in all cases that haven't been confirmed within 90/120/? days or a serious problem. It appears to be a local practice; the Trustees in MD don't file them, and I have one case that's been open without confirmation for 2 years now.

    Call your attorney tomorrow, and he or she can explain what's happening. You do have the ability to appear at the hearing and tell the judge that you've done everything asked of you, and you don't know what the problem is.

    Brett Weiss
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      #3
      Let us know how this turned out for you??
      Date Filed: 12/19/2004
      341 Meeting: 2/8/2005
      Date Case Confirmed: 7/12/2005
      Closed on Refinance/Chapter 13 Buyout 8/23/06

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        #4
        Cool Brett, good to see you are posting here as well.

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          #5
          Is this what was actually in the letter:

          Wherefore your trustee prays that after notice and hearing, this Chapter 13 case be dismissed
          *** THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE--ONLY A LAWYER CAN PROVIDE THAT. ***

          My posts represent hours of research on and off the web, these forums, my experience, and my opinions.

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            #6
            Originally posted by anonymuse View Post
            Is this what was actually in the letter:

            Wherefore your trustee prays that after notice and hearing, this Chapter 13 case be dismissed
            That is accurate and true! It is part of the legal mumbo-jumbo that they use.
            Date Filed: 12/19/2004
            341 Meeting: 2/8/2005
            Date Case Confirmed: 7/12/2005
            Closed on Refinance/Chapter 13 Buyout 8/23/06

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              #7
              Originally posted by Jman30 View Post
              That is accurate and true! It is part of the legal mumbo-jumbo that they use.
              Gotta love that separation of church and state.
              *** THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE--ONLY A LAWYER CAN PROVIDE THAT. ***

              My posts represent hours of research on and off the web, these forums, my experience, and my opinions.

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                #8
                Originally posted by anonymuse View Post
                Is this what was actually in the letter:

                Wherefore your trustee prays that after notice and hearing, this Chapter 13 case be dismissed
                A lot of American legaleeze is from the way people spoke and wrote when the country was first formed and the style has not changed.

                Pink explained this "trustee prays" a while back. Here's a link to that thread:

                http://www.bankruptcyforum.com/showt...ighlight=prays
                Filed Ch 7 - 09/06
                Discharged - 12/2006
                Officially Declared No Asset - 03/2007
                Closed - 04/2007

                I am not an attorney. My comments are based on personal experience and research. Always consult an attorney in your area to address concerns related to your particular situation.

                Another good thing about being poor is that when you are seventy your children will not have declared you legally insane in order to gain control of your estate. - Woody Allen...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SinkingFast View Post
                  A lot of American legaleeze is from the way people spoke and wrote when the country was first formed and the style has not changed.

                  Pink explained this "trustee prays" a while back. Here's a link to that thread:

                  http://www.bankruptcyforum.com/showt...ighlight=prays
                  Thanks for the link. I think a lot of people, whether religious or not, start praying for their 341. ;)
                  *** THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE--ONLY A LAWYER CAN PROVIDE THAT. ***

                  My posts represent hours of research on and off the web, these forums, my experience, and my opinions.

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                    #10
                    My Trustee didn't pray for anything! (that particular legal phrase was never used in any of my documentation)

                    I was the one praying BIG TIME!

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                      #11
                      LOL! GMTA!!

                      Originally posted by anonymuse View Post
                      Thanks for the link. I think a lot of people, whether religious or not, start praying for their 341. ;)

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                        #12
                        lgfrog, not many of us actually get confirmed without some motion to dismiss. Try and save a few of them nails for making it the 36 or 60 months in the plan. Here is the general rule for motions to dismiss (but may not be the case in your bk district).

                        The trustee files a motion to dismiss. If your attorney files a timely response, the motion to dismiss is "terminated".

                        What has probably happened is the trustee doesn't like some figure in one of your expenses or something. Could be as simple as the attorney has not contacted them or returned there calls concerning something.

                        This motion could be an attempt to get your attorney off his/her butt and contact them so they can get your case off there desk.

                        I would not worry so much about it. After I got my 3rd motion to dismiss, I quit stressing over it. All 3 motions were terminated when my attorney filed a response.

                        Hope this helps you sleep better tonight.
                        Chapter 13 Filed 4/03/06 :blink: 341 Meeting Complete 5/11/06 :yes2:
                        Plan Confirmation 6/16/06 :yahoo:
                        Discharged: 1/5/2010 :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

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                          #13
                          Here is the reply I got from my attorney...

                          "The Trustee issues these notices automatically when I case has not been finalized as of a certain date....They are behind a little bit on some cases but I have submitted all the information required for the Trustee to set this case for a confirmation hearing and am waiting for court date...they will not dismiss the case unless the case is not confirmed for some reason (which won't happen because we will resolve any outstanding issues that would be prevent it from confirming when the court date arrives). Keep making your payments and confirmation will be set shortly."

                          I wrote her back to ask if we need to attend the hearing listed in the notice. She said "No...I will attend on your behalf if necessary...I expect a final date for confirmation to be set sometime in November and you may need to attend that hearing but I'll keep you posted..."

                          So, I'm trying not to worry about it...but it still do!
                          Filed 9/26/05
                          341 Meeting 10/25/05
                          Confirmed UGH

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                            #14
                            Sounds like your attorney has things in order. I would just keep a close eye on it....most BK lawyers deal with quantity of clients over quality of cases and even with the best intentions, things can slip through the cracks.

                            But it sounds like your attorney knows what she is talking about.
                            Date Filed: 12/19/2004
                            341 Meeting: 2/8/2005
                            Date Case Confirmed: 7/12/2005
                            Closed on Refinance/Chapter 13 Buyout 8/23/06

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