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    Things NOT to do at your 341

    Want to make sure that your 341 goes well? Here's what I learned today that will make you have a bad day.

    1. Fraudulent transfer. Really want to see a trustee get pissed and show out? Then do a fraudulent transfer! That was the most interesting thing that I saw today. Would have made for good daytime tv drama.

    2. File Pro-Se and don't fill out your forms. Don't list all of your assets, don't show that you own anything, and have a jolly good time answering when the trustee asks whose clothes you're wearing (because you didn't list owning any).

    3. Show up without proper id. Drivers license that doesn't match, no social security card or documentation, or anything else.

    4. Sell a vehicle after filing and before your 341. That was good for a really good a$$ chewing.

    5. Continue to keep using your credit cards. The question was asked why did you keep using your cards and where are they now? The answer was "in the car outside" by one, another answered "in the kitchen drawer at home". These fine specimens were instructed to have them destroyed by 5:00 pm today and were told that they can not have a credit card.

    6. Use a lawyer that does not do many bk filings. Have them leave off schedules, not fill out the paperwork completely, and generally make a complete and total idiot of themself. Now that was funny, doesn't matter which side you were on.

    Trustee was nice, trustee was firm, and for those that were prepared, it was as easy as a walk thru the park on Sunday afternoon. Trustee was very nice to the filers (with the exception of the one that tried to file Pro-Se), but took out the wrath and fury on the attorneys that had not done their job well.

    As for us? 4000+ pages of documentation, and a 6 minute 341 meeting. No problems, everything smooth, and a big thank you from the trustee for having great documentation. Trustee stated that our case was the best and most well documented case that trustee had ever seen.

    Having to buy back a few assets, but no big deal.......... The bleeding has stopped and I'm not continuing to lose money every month.

    Thanks to all here for all of the advice, help, and shoulder when it has been needed.
    All information contained in this post is for informational and amusement purposes only.
    Bankruptcy is a process, not an event.......

    #2
    Nice frogger... especially the 4,000+ pages of documentation provided. I would have brought an "extra copy" for the Trustee... but that would just annoy them.
    Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
    Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
    Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

    Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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      #3
      good job frogger

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        #4
        Wow, that's amazing your Trustee was on the Great Space Coaster! He read 4000+ pages in six minutes? Did you chant "Speed Reader, Speed Reader"?!

        Congrats on a successful 341!
        *Filed: September 23, 2009 *341: November 4, 2009 *Discharged: January 4, 2010 *Closed: January 20, 2010

        Hakuna Matata...it means NO WORRIES!

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          #5
          Awesome! Great job!
          11/09 - Ran out of money - 1/4/10 - Filed Chapter 7 (Pro-Se) - 2/16/10 - 341 Meeting -6/17/10 - Reaffirmation hearing (auto) - DISCHARGED 7/6/10m CLOSED 7/26/10

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            #6


            WTG Frogger! Too bad you didn't take a video camera. I could use some YouTube comedy right about now.

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              #7
              Originally posted by HakunaMatata View Post
              Wow, that's amazing your Trustee was on the Great Space Coaster! He read 4000+ pages in six minutes? Did you chant "Speed Reader, Speed Reader"?!

              Congrats on a successful 341!
              Note the filing date vs the 341 date. At our first 341, we pretty much showed our ID and it got extended for another month in order for the trustee to read and review. Today was our second 341.

              Life is good.
              All information contained in this post is for informational and amusement purposes only.
              Bankruptcy is a process, not an event.......

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                #8
                4000+ pages??? New meaning to "baffle them with B000l Stit". Good job. 'Hub
                If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AngelinaCatHub View Post
                  4000+ pages??? New meaning to "baffle them with B000l Stit".
                  First rule of litigation. Bury them with paperwork!
                  Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
                  Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
                  Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

                  Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by justbroke View Post
                    First rule of litigation. Bury them with paperwork!
                    In my civil law suit, by DS lawyer (yes it is what it is meant to say, start with dumb) stated I should post all the Forum posts about me (it was a libel suit). 25,000 pages, 190,000 posts, 50 reams of paper, 8 cartridges for laser printer, six cases of 4 inch notebooks.

                    I ended burning them last year. What crap that she did not follow through. Would not even go after 11.5K of sanctions we got on our behalf.

                    BUT, we are happy. All is behind. 'Hub
                    If I knew it all, would I be here?? Hang in there = Retained attorney 8-06, Filed 12-28-07, Discharge 8-13-08, Finally CLOSED 11-3-09, 3-31-10 AP Dismissed, Informed by incompetent lawyer of CLOSED status, October 14, 2010.

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                      #11
                      Nice.
                      Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
                      Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
                      Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

                      Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by AngelinaCatHub View Post
                        In my civil law suit, by DS lawyer (yes it is what it is meant to say, start with dumb) stated I should post all the Forum posts about me (it was a libel suit). 25,000 pages, 190,000 posts, 50 reams of paper, 8 cartridges for laser printer, six cases of 4 inch notebooks.

                        I ended burning them last year. What crap that she did not follow through. Would not even go after 11.5K of sanctions we got on our behalf.

                        BUT, we are happy. All is behind. 'Hub
                        Wow. You did that all on your own?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by justbroke View Post
                          First rule of litigation. Bury them with paperwork!
                          LOL! ........... Indeed......
                          "I'm old enough to know better, but too young to care"
                          Filed Chapter 7 January 25th 2010
                          341 Hearing March 4th 2010
                          Discharged May 10th 2010

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                            #14
                            Way to go Frogger!
                            "I'm old enough to know better, but too young to care"
                            Filed Chapter 7 January 25th 2010
                            341 Hearing March 4th 2010
                            Discharged May 10th 2010

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                              #15
                              So happy for you frogger!

                              4000 pages? I doubt there's ever been a book written that was that long!

                              The Saga of Frogger, LOL!!
                              Filed Chapter 7 April 29th, 2010
                              341 June 1st, 2010
                              Report of No Distribution June 2nd, 2010
                              Discharged and Closed 8/10/2010

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