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    Surrender after discharge even if on means?

    OK, I figure I would post this in the "car" forum, even though I am pretty sure I'l be ok based on the other responses I have received.

    I needed to get past the means test so I kept my '06 v6 Mustang that has a $629 payment (a couple upside down trade ins).

    Now that I have been discharged and did NOT reaffirm, can I just walk away from the vehicle, even though I used the payment on the means test? And I won't be responsible for any shortfall?

    I am in Colorado... Thank you!
    02/05/09 Filed BK7
    03/11/09 341 Hearing
    05/20/09 Discharged!

    #2
    Yes, you should be able to walk away from it. Call the lender and make arrangements to turn the vehicle in. I've heard they sometimes let you leave it somewhere to avoid embarrassment of a repo man at your residence (nosy neighbors, etc).
    Filing: 4/10/2009, 341: 5/18/2009
    Last day for objections: 7/17/2009
    Discharge: 7/29/2009

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      #3
      Were you an asset case? If you're a no asset case, and for good measure, I'd wait until the case is closed. But, that's just me.

      When you do eventually surrender the vehicle, you won't be responsible for any shortfall or deficiency. You owe the lender nothing.
      Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
      Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
      Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

      Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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        #4
        Originally posted by justbroke View Post
        Were you an asset case? If you're a no asset case, and for good measure, I'd wait until the case is closed. But, that's just me.

        When you do eventually surrender the vehicle, you won't be responsible for any shortfall or deficiency. You owe the lender nothing.
        JB-

        Check this out... I reached out to a local Ford dealer, and this is what he sent back...

        Bill, what do you do for XXX? Your job title and can you put any money down and finally the car does not show in the bk, are you sure it is?

        Office: Denver
        Disp: Standard Discharge
        Assets: No
        Fee: Paid
        County: Denver
        Last edited by BillyRip; 07-03-2009, 10:13 AM.
        02/05/09 Filed BK7
        03/11/09 341 Hearing
        05/20/09 Discharged!

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          #5
          BillRip, interesting it doesn't show. Did the dealer offer you any rate or anything, or just said to bring money?
          Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
          Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
          Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

          Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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            #6
            Originally posted by justbroke View Post
            BillRip, interesting it doesn't show. Did the dealer offer you any rate or anything, or just said to bring money?
            Shocking huh? Just bring money. LOL!

            I didn't reaffirm, used the payment on the means test, and I told the trustee that I was keeping the car. Can I still give it up without any further repercussions?

            I thought all creditors were made aware of my filing? Even the mtg company for the town home that I kept won't even email me a "bill". Just a "statement".

            What about reaffirming with a new bank at the current value? Is that an option?

            Thanks again JB. Your knowledge and help are VERY MUCH appreciated here!

            02/05/09 Filed BK7
            03/11/09 341 Hearing
            05/20/09 Discharged!

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              #7
              In some cases, the car lenders and home lenders have kept reporting the vehicles and homes (respectively) to the credit reporting agencies as current! This would be good for you if you qualify for a loan with the current car.

              Since you didn't reaffirm, you can give up the car at any point. Generally, I'd wait until closing... but asking your attorney is the best when it comes to that.
              Chapter 7 (No Asset/Non-Consumer) Filed (Pro Se) 7/08 (converted from Chapter 13 - 2/10)
              Status: (Auto) Discharged and Closed! 5/10
              Visit My BKForum Blog: justbroke's Blog

              Any advice provided is not legal advice, but simply the musings of a fellow bankrupt.

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                #8
                Originally posted by justbroke View Post
                In some cases, the car lenders and home lenders have kept reporting the vehicles and homes (respectively) to the credit reporting agencies as current! This would be good for you if you qualify for a loan with the current car.

                Since you didn't reaffirm, you can give up the car at any point. Generally, I'd wait until closing... but asking your attorney is the best when it comes to that.
                Thank you sir... I am waiting for my Atty to advise.
                02/05/09 Filed BK7
                03/11/09 341 Hearing
                05/20/09 Discharged!

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