Having gotten a lot of help here during my BK, I figured I would run this one by everyone here as well as I figure out how to handle it...
Prior to April of last year I was in Arizona, and am now in New York.
BK discharged in 10/2012, included in that was some past HOA fees and fines. To make it simple lets say it was $2000 balance to them on the day I filed my BK paperwork. Bank of America filed foreclosure paperwork after discharge which was fine with me, they were not able to make the payment affordable so I knew I was leaving. Couple months later get a good job offer in New York and start planning the move. Moved the first half of our stuff the end of March, and shortly after that (and before we could get the rest) the bank changed the locks, so I have not returned to there since. I am fully aware that I am responsible for the HOA amounts due -after- my BK discharge. I also know that had BoA completed foreclosure they would have had to pay it to secure clean title, but that's not so important right now. Well, bank cancels the sale just before auction and then sells the loan to another lender some time after. (This part I just found out about last month - 8 months after they cancelled the auction) BoA had been having someone "cut the grass" but apparently stopped because the HOA has not sent me a notice about weeds.
This is where it gets interesting. After exchanging emails with the HOA and explaining that the bank had taken possession and I would try to contact them about whoever they have doing maintenance, the HOA decided to file a small claims suit for the balance on my account. Filed for $3500, the maximum for small claims in Arizona, consisting of the $2000 pre-petition debt, a few hundred in collections costs, plus the HOA fees and fines that have accrued since the BK case was filed. I can work out the whole answer to it and all, and believe I can respond by mail (And hopefully can appear by phone, as just starting a new job and having an upcoming addition to the family certainly cannot afford to fly to AZ to appear, either because of time or money) - But, what about the pre-petition amount? I know they cannot collect on it, despite them explaining that because I did not move out immediately it still is a valid debt. (I know the lien will remain though..) Will bringing it up in my answer to the suit be enough to bring it to the courts attention and have the inevitable judgment reduced? I am not trying to get out of paying them what I supposedly owe (Unless of course the bank wants to take it back and clears the account - wishful thinking) just don't want to pay a debt that was already discharged.
Of course any advice on getting the bank to take the house sooner than later would be appreciated too. BSI Financial is the servicer now
Thanks again
Greg
SORRY! Just saw this wound up in the before the discharge section but don't see how to move it! Mods can relocate if appropriate, sorry again!
Prior to April of last year I was in Arizona, and am now in New York.
BK discharged in 10/2012, included in that was some past HOA fees and fines. To make it simple lets say it was $2000 balance to them on the day I filed my BK paperwork. Bank of America filed foreclosure paperwork after discharge which was fine with me, they were not able to make the payment affordable so I knew I was leaving. Couple months later get a good job offer in New York and start planning the move. Moved the first half of our stuff the end of March, and shortly after that (and before we could get the rest) the bank changed the locks, so I have not returned to there since. I am fully aware that I am responsible for the HOA amounts due -after- my BK discharge. I also know that had BoA completed foreclosure they would have had to pay it to secure clean title, but that's not so important right now. Well, bank cancels the sale just before auction and then sells the loan to another lender some time after. (This part I just found out about last month - 8 months after they cancelled the auction) BoA had been having someone "cut the grass" but apparently stopped because the HOA has not sent me a notice about weeds.
This is where it gets interesting. After exchanging emails with the HOA and explaining that the bank had taken possession and I would try to contact them about whoever they have doing maintenance, the HOA decided to file a small claims suit for the balance on my account. Filed for $3500, the maximum for small claims in Arizona, consisting of the $2000 pre-petition debt, a few hundred in collections costs, plus the HOA fees and fines that have accrued since the BK case was filed. I can work out the whole answer to it and all, and believe I can respond by mail (And hopefully can appear by phone, as just starting a new job and having an upcoming addition to the family certainly cannot afford to fly to AZ to appear, either because of time or money) - But, what about the pre-petition amount? I know they cannot collect on it, despite them explaining that because I did not move out immediately it still is a valid debt. (I know the lien will remain though..) Will bringing it up in my answer to the suit be enough to bring it to the courts attention and have the inevitable judgment reduced? I am not trying to get out of paying them what I supposedly owe (Unless of course the bank wants to take it back and clears the account - wishful thinking) just don't want to pay a debt that was already discharged.
Of course any advice on getting the bank to take the house sooner than later would be appreciated too. BSI Financial is the servicer now
Thanks again
Greg
SORRY! Just saw this wound up in the before the discharge section but don't see how to move it! Mods can relocate if appropriate, sorry again!
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